Well Leadzero, I have set up my forum to allow differnet user groups access to different parts. So its kind of exclusive access. And some groups wanted the order to the opposite from the default. I guess I can use your hack to manually change the setting for all the users in that group, but as always, it would be nice to make it simpler, don't you think ? Though I am not good qat PHP, I don't think it should be too difficult...