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Originally Posted by The Geek

But smack... we are talking about internationally recognised human rights. Illegally and indefinitely incarcerating people without due process is a violation of basic human rights regardless of how much hot air is used to justify the fact. I respect you guys have your own views, just disappointed that you believe human rights are only afforded to humans that you don't harbour suspicion about.

I respect your opinion and appreciate the chance to discuss these things without it becoming personal It is indeed a tough situation and I'm glad I'm not the one having to make the decisions. Bush made his and I suppose history will be the judge...same goes for Obama. I just hope that a wrong decision either way doesn't cost innocent lives.

Originally Posted by The Geek

Leadership takes balls and courage. This could come back to bite Obama in the ass, however at least he has the spine to put his money where his mouth is and enact change. That is what he was elected to do and right or wrong, he is doing it. In this day and age, I take my hat off (if I was wearing one) to any politician that does that.

Hope is much harder to inspire than hate and fear. We've had 8 years of the later, I'm game to try something new.

I'm tired of the past eight years too and I'm willing to give Obama a chance to screw up royally as well (as long as it doesn't get me killed in the process)