[Overgrow]

I know you are experienced vB user. But be honest! Such thing as karma hack needs one karma.php file ~10kb, one new table and few template adjustments. You really don't need an army of users to test this one.

Mine has modifications to showthread and member for additional features. No, it is not a very complicated hack... as evident by the number of people who started writing it. It is a tough hack to do correctly, as evident by the number of people who have finished it and are running it (2).

I'm not downing what you're writing... just letting you know, if you just put some karmic power numbers in there and let it loose, hope it goes well, you will be in for a surprise. What I'm saying is that there were many many tweaks that went into the system only months after it had been online. Ask W.Luke if his Karma system worked out of the box.... I'm sure he'll agree.

>>Overgrow, many people are interested in this one-- why don't you release it? Its great but just little hack.

I know.. and I've always released every feature we've written for vBulletin (Images, Spiderfriend, query caching, etc)... but this is one thing that we have over the competition. Also I can only imagine the request for support if I put a hack of this sort out... Also I don't make pretty install routines and nice table creators, which pisses people off. I'd rather sell to a few clients if they're interested and make a bit of cash.. this is what I do after all.

More power to you if yours works out as a public release.