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so its not unreasonable for wajones to ask for a little to cover his time or his costs.

No it is not unreasonable, that was not what I was trying to say.
WaJones has stated this himself, vBPortal is a Hack, not a program, in fact it is a major hack to several scripts and the addition of several new scripts. This is what probably is causing me the most problems. Other than the donation part, the other options to gain access are vague to say the least. That frustrates folks.

I have only been around for about a week, as stated in my previous post, and I have read this comment many times:

Portal Lite apart from one minor problem I had, has also been stable on my server, considering this is only pre-release I think this is testement to the way its been created and debugged by the people who wish to see it succeed.

It is probably comments such as these that frustrate folks even more, they want it, you say I got it and it's stable, but it aint available??

I am sure there are many people, myself included that wish to see it succeed, the reason for my post was that on my forum I have what I call the Premium members area, it is only visable to those I think assist others in solving their problems, and my carrot? access to components such as CPU's HD's, Motherboards etc. all well below avarage prices. But you know what, I don't like the position it puts me in as word gets round I could see myself in the same position as WaJones. The original idea was sound, but in practice I think my problems are just around the corner.