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Old 10-01-2008, 05:04 PM
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Must be a sensitive liberal!
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Originally Posted by StepOnFrog View Post
WOW !!! That was an unnecessarily defensive reply to my post, for which mine was just helping one user be aware of the IP dynamics of t'internet.

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Pedigree, where in my post do you think I've attacked your creation?

Apologies to any users, including yourself, Pedigree, should you believe this post is 'Threadwaste/Postwaste', but surely some of you will have got to a point with users misunderstanding the context, or entirety of the posts you make - this is one of those very moments; I am really *sick* to the back teeth of posts not being read correctly, and then someone taking their hat off at some poor user about it.

I really do not see why you have come to be so defensive from what I have written, and so, I feel I should make myself much more clearly understood...



In fact, I do not *try* to *tell* you anything about flawed systems at other locations, and I certainly do not, at any point, comment on the level of quality your MOD provides.
I haven't complained about collateral damage. I haven't complained about any of my members not being able to register due to IP blocking. I did, however, directly inform a single user that IP blocking can be a problem for board registrations, other users will read the same post and understand the same. With regards the Conact Us page, should you happen to read any of the many quality articles that other experienced Bulletin Board Admins have written (not just vB), you may come to realise that when an internet user searches, and happens to come across a website, if the information they are seeking is not within the first several clicks, they are more likely to move onto another website; Contact Us, is no guarantee that you will keep a customer in your shop, so to speak. (this is not a criticism to your post, btw).
Now, that part of your post was, IMO, the only constructive part, in response to my post. Although, looking through your MOD listing description, at no point do you mention any switching of IP blocking facility, or any facilities, as I come to read the description again; only after looking at the second attached screenshot, do I spot a selection box showing ENABLE, and then one must logically assume there is a DISBLE selection too, though, unfortunately, this fact of logic may not be readily obvious to some (honestly, there are users that just don't know, we've all come across them, and we help them).
And, this does seem quite an over-defensive response to something I haven't written; your use of "*I* can" is what pushed me to write this lengthy tome. It appears, judging from your sentence, that you believe I have somehow attempted to stop you from preventing spammers..? Sorry, I fail to see where I have restricted your use of your MOD.
I haven't said that I don't like the idea of blocking 'some poor innocent person'. And, why should I code a MOD? I had come to this MOD thread to examine your MOD, to check whether it was the product for me. I did suggest an addition, not only to your MOD, but to any MOD that attempts to prevent spamming registrations by using the points I had listed so many times before, and herein.
You really have misunderstood the suggestions I have made....
You know, as well as I, that vB sets a cookie on your system (or spambot system) each and every visit to your vB board. So, if you record the cookie with each registration, then if that registration fails and another attempt is made with the same username/email, and the cookie is different the second time round, then your vB software will know that the registration MAY be a spambot. For this suggestion to work, you must assume that people are not THICK, and that they will try registering again within the same cookie session, should their first attempt 'balls up', somehow. Ergo, humans register and reregister in the same cookie session, whereas spambots go away and come back later to try again.

Exactly! So, why be so defensive?
It's nice to know some people care, and know perfectly well what they're on about...!

But, aside from clearing any misunderstandings, I would really like to hear your views on the suggestions I've provided, ie. the failed spambot registrations due to the image verification process.

I hope this has made things much clearer. However, please do not hesitate to contact me with regards any of the above.

Yours,

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