[Sycosphere]

Hello Snake,
obviously, I'm not an owner of a site that would get a 1000 users with broadband connections to actually DDoS him and flood the NIC itself! , neither 99% of forum owners here are!
What your talking about happens to site like Yahoo! for crying out load!, while what I'm talking about is some softwares being spread between users and script kiddies with good connections that make repetitive requests to database driven sites causing the mysql server to crash the whole server!. What I'm saying here is .... Imagine the difference between sending 30 queries a 1000 times in one second, and processing a simple html page
I think there is a huge difference when u see it that way, of course only in cases like mine, not the mass-destructive cases ur talking about

Another point to be considered is that about 70% (maybe more I dont know) of database driven websites are not on a dedicated server, so when a site causes a server to crash, the hosting company will advise the site owner to get a dedicated server, or simply kicks him out!.
Also hosting companies does not offer DDoS protection for free, so another possible respond would be advising the site owner to get a DDoS protection and pay huge extra fees monthly. Ask me, I'm hosted with iWEB !

You said :

your not going to stop a DDoS attack with anything via the server/forums

Well, Lynne here had another opinion:

We used a script that filled up our iptables with all ips that were pounding our server. It was still a painful four days, but you could get on the site.

btw, I dont know why I get the feeling that you thought I said that they are attacking one of hacks, well .. I didnt, they're simply attacking different vbulletin scripts like index.php, image.php, misc.php ... etc, I wouldnt exactly call vb a "poorly written php page".

Anyways, the solution actually worked, on some level ... So I guess I'll stick to the idea and try to develop it a little bit more so it involves IPtables maybe.