[Digital Jedi]

Originally Posted by nighteyes

They are upset that people have recently been critical of their making promises of various release dates and never delivering the final product. Apparently vBCommerce was promised 10 months ago for example and still not even the sign of an Alpha release.

The simple solution would be stop making promises unless you are 100% sure you can deliver upon them. vBulletin developers learned that lesson. Maybe these guys will learn now. Especially given they are part-time (at best) developers struggling to find time to develop vBulletin add-ons.

Personally I don't think we will ever see vBCommerce.

They likely shut down the site so they could spend more time developing vBCredits/Commerce/Customizer, rather then answer and admin a site all day long. If you've spent any time on the site, or spent any time talking to Darkwaltz and PixelFX, you'd know that vBCredits is a HUGE investment on their part. This isn't something their doing in their spare time just for kicks. Their looking to make their products reliable and safe, considering that money is going to be exchanging hands utilizing a lot of these products. Their reputation for a solid product is more important to them then their reputation for a speedy product. Speedy products seldom deliver anyway.

If the site is shut down, then I can only imagine it's to free up time to work on their core scripts. I happen to know that their making progress, but that there's still important work to be done. Work that has to get done along side spending time with their families, and working on their real life jobs that provide genuine income; the higher of the priorities then any vB releases. You'll notice that Waltz is still taking genuine support questions via email.

I don't see any evidence as of yet that they aren't 100% certain that they can deliver on their products. What I do see is a lot of non-coders (myself included) criticising the amount of time it takes to code a complex and intricate project, when they have no idea how much time it actual takes to accomplish such a task and they have no idea how much time the developers have to do the actual work. Just because you've been told that a product is under development, doesn't mean you've been promised any kind of time line. The fact they have a heavily developed site, and already a number of deeply intricate products and scripts should tell you that they take this seriously.