Thanks for the advice.
After searching through as many posts (Paul) as I could back to your own "noobie" post on data managers in 2005

I still don't quite get it.
If I am simply inserting data into fields in already existing tables, why do I need to use the DataManager? I am simply saying I do not understand the underlying reason the DataManager would be required or even really preferable vs for example using Coldfusion to read data from one source and insert in into another (being my froum tables).
Perhaps inserting records directly into vbulletin tables is far more complex than I realize?
Just at a loss. I was thinking more like veenuisthebest...just insert the data and be done with it.