ok - i did double check and reupload ALL 2.2.8 file and what I'm finding is that the vba module is trying to find the ldm_ .php files that were there from 2.2.* bc when i remove those (bc they weren't in the 2.2.8 zip file) it creates a new error. But when I put them back then it goes back to the error originally noted and as you see it's looking for that .php file but there wasnt a new one included in the 2.2.8 zip file in this post