[RobDog888]

True and I did think about the confusion but my product has alot of settings and permissions that I added a specific nav group. I probably will let the ugp take care of those perms but the settings and options would be much better off separated out like vBAdvanced does.

This is the closest I have found on settings/options...
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=116155

Any idea how to generate them? I tried ...

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<bitfields product="myproduct">
    <bitfielddefs>
        <group name="ugp">
            <group name="myproduct_permissions">
                <bitfield name="can_view" group="myproduct_permissions" phrase="myproduct_can_view">1</bitfield>
                <bitfield name="can_play" group="myproduct_permissions" phrase="myproduct_can_play">2</bitfield>
                <bitfield name="can_upload" group="myproduct_permissions" phrase="myproduct_can_upload">4</bitfield>
                <bitfield name="can_edit" group="myproduct_permissions" phrase="myproduct_can_edit">8</bitfield>
            </group>
	</group>
        <group name="myproduct">
            <group name="mysetting1">
                <bitfield name="mysetting1"></bitfield>
	        <datatype>free</datatype>
	        <defaultvalue></defaultvalue>
            </group>
        </group>
    </bitfielddefs>
</bitfields>

And I figure there is more to it then that for the settings/options but that article is old so I dont think its done that way anymore.