[Ncturnal]

Originally Posted by smacklan

Well, I would argue with your assessment we are responsible for their hatred for one another. What I will ask, is those who are fervently opposed to the war such as yourself never seem to offer any suggestions on how to make it right (pulling out is a stupid answer, so please don't go there). Also, Ron Paul for Pres...thanks for the chuckle...I needed the laugh this afternoon

I didn't mean to imply that we are responsible for the hatred they have for one another. I meant we were responsible for a most of the 655,000 that have died. I'm not even sure if the 655,000 figure includes the ones that have killed each other.

Suggestions going forward? Stop ++++ing around with the internal affairs of other countries. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and we have some overwhelming problems at home that need to be corrected before we are qualified to preach to others that there is a better way.

How is pulling out a stupid answer? We are going to have to leave eventually and the net result will be the same whether we leave 1 year from now or 10 years from now. History repeats itself and this is very much like Vietnam. Everyone said there would be chaos when we left there and communism would over run the world but it never happened. We lost 60,000 troops and Vietnam lost 3,000,000 people. We didn't accomplish anything by imposing our will and going in on false pretenses and Iraq is no exception. At the rate we are going, we will have no choice but to leave Iraq for economic reasons because we are hemorrhaging and nearing total bankruptcy. The dollar is nearing collapse and countries are already starting to drop it to use the Euro instead. The current course is not sustainable especially when we borrow the money from China to fund the war. At some point the money will stop and they will not be able to tax enough to cover the costs. Then what do you suggest? It is morally wrong to offload the burden of our mistakes to the next generation of Americans.

So Ron Paul as President makes you laugh? Why is that? Because he's honest? Because he's the only one that has a clue about the economy? Because he's one of the only defenders of our liberties in Washington? Because he votes against all the wasteful spending? Because he's the only one that takes the oath to uphold that worthless piece of paper we call the Constitution? I suppose you're right. We'd be much better off with the corrupt, business as usual politicians who have done so well up to this point. Get real.