[ChrisLM2001]

My goal is to work with vBulletin in a professional manner. That means to be treated professionally, and to have a product that aims to be professional. I wouldn't be here with vBulletin if I didn't like the product (who would like wasting their time stating the obvious?). To get to that point on the design side is to remind staff it's not just code that runs a forum, and point out the problems so it can be fixed. The design side needs "luving", too.

The posting combatness I have is due, from experience, in how staff reacts to design suggestions. Simple requests turn into morass of personal attacks and just plain rude commentary. I have v-e-r-y thick skin, so it doesn't phase me, but to others it can (most of the design community here are kids and very sensitive in proving themselves and building their portfolios). The same community that wants to create, and be proud of their creations with the vBulletin community, not be told to stand in their little corner and be good little dumb retards in their afterthought style corner.

The kids and adults see all this side sniping and feel the attitudes, Marco. They also can feel the status quo that died 5 years ago in other venues. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to sense the attitudes toward designers are at the least insulting here, bordering on the obnoxious.

If staff can't see that, maybe it's time that they understand why there's over 2,000 coders and less than 800 designers here -- and a zillion design questions on how to do this or that, that go unanswered, because the community ratio is so lopsided.