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Originally Posted by Reeve of shinra

That being said, while I appreciate the simplicity of the backend from an admin perspective, I find the front end is quickly falling behind the times. Users want more more than just a forum and as admins we want to give it to them. The modding community on vb.org is great but the nature of the modifications have become so complex that they are no longer quick hacks to accomplish something innovative but rather they are complete products in their own right which require time and resources to support and develop. For the hobbyist, I am sure that is fine but for the non-hobbyist that appreciates the time and energy and complexity of the applications, we are willing to pay for the work so long as its professionally developed and supported. Its why vbseo, vbadvanced, and a few others are thriving and we would love to see Jelsoft roll out additional products which will meet the growing demand of its user base.

Very true. So good in fact that Photopost has started developing their own forum software (released last week). At this point still basic, but it is surely a sign that vb is way behind on expanding.

Originally Posted by Spank

Anyone seen phpBB3? It's pretty!

I am in awe about this:

# Jabber/XMPP support for notifications
# "You were beaten at posting" notification

Note that Google has connected Jabber to AIM, MSN, Yahoo and a bunch more.

I really hope that Jelsoft starts hiring a mass of developers and rolls out a series of high quality add-ons or improves vbulletin. It is already a great system, but the net is evolving fast.