[slinky]

Thanks for your comments strike3. Unfortunately I'm at the point where I can't even install the zoints version that is up there right now. I've got the dreaded administrative necessity error right after step 1 of the install and see no .php file created in my include folder. Tried everything and it seems I'm far from the only person with this problem, which has been lingering for months. I've posted comments in the forums and a help ticket but haven't yet received a reply. I'm getting the general feeling that vbulletin owners are as excited about the future of zoints are are Kansas City Royals fans, by way of analogy...