Forgive me, I couldn't find any info on the datastore within class_dm_forum.php but I do see that it does update the forum table (for applying forum password to child forums) within function post_save_each so i know i'm on the right track - i just have to keep trying to understand how the datamanager works. OOP is still somewhat confusing to me, i usually write straight code, but the project i am working on now is at a point where I need to use a DM to simplify things, so until i can grasp it well enough i'll just keep asking questions, reading the vbulletin manual Appendix 4, and experimenting, thanks!
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