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Originally Posted by Brad

I can't appreciate that fact because one only cares about such things when they care about status. Honestly we'd all be better off if the counts where hidden..but then that wouldn't be fair to the end users. The counts are there for the end users...not us.

Gee, thanks for meeting me halfway. Fine, you don't care about your install count. I do. Many others have clearly stated they do also. You want it insist on seeing us a lesser people for it, have at it and enjoy your day.

A list...even redesigned is a list. It must be managed and kept clean. A re-design is just hiding the root problem for the same 'lame reasons' we've been hearing about for years.

Someone decided to arbitrarily tie receiving update notices to the installed status. Now they are using that completely arbitrary coupling of two very different things as an excuse to not have one of those things work correctly. Automate installed/uninstalled and then change the name of the installed button to 'get updates'. Wow, problem solved. The thing, as you should know, is there are a hundred ways to solve any software problem.

If you need more reasons I'm happy to provide them;

1) The "hide a url in <img>" never worked for users that were not logged in. Any similar trick is going to suffer from the same problem.

The rest of your reason all seem to fall out from this 'logged in idea'. And since it's incorrect the rest are all incorrect. 'hide url' doesn't work because the user is viewing the site in question. A call home works much more like AJAX. There is no reason or need for the user to login. The information is sent and recorded just fine with nothing but a productid and vbulletin license number which we already know you can tie to an account here - in fact every account here is required to have a license number.