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Old 02-25-2007, 04:07 PM
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You again miss the point. Nobody is saying global warming does not exist. That's your consensus in a nutshell. What is nowhere near consensus is WHY.
The IPCC Summary you keep referencing as proof is a flawed document. The summary does not reflect the actual report.
It is not nearly as easy to present the dissenting view as it is not as neatly packaged as the reader's digest version you submit as "proof", but you asked for it, so I will oblige.

Prepare for a lot of reading.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/.../reg15n2g.html
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/edu/gwdebate/
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4870
http://www.springerlink.com/content/...1/fulltext.pdf
http://meteo.lcd.lu/globalwarming/Li...g_31Jan07.html
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Originally Posted by excerpt from above link regarding IPCC Summary for Policymakers
It's not 2,500 people offering their consensus, I participated in that. Each person who is an author writes one or two pages in conjunction with someone else. They travel around the world several times a year for several years to write it and the summary for policymakers has the input of about 13 of the scientists, but ultimately, it is written by representatives of governments, of environmental organizations like the Union of Concerned Scientists, and industrial organizations, each seeking their own benefit.
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/200...GL028492.shtml

That should hold you for a few minutes anyway, assuming you do bother to read any of it.

It is also important to note that the so-called “Skeptics” include Dr. Daniel Schrag of Harvard; Claude Allegre, one of the most decorated French geophysicists; Dr. Richard Lindzen, professor of Atmospheric Sciences, MIT; Dr. Patrick Michaels, University of Virginia: Dr. Fred Singer; Professor Bob Carter, geologist at James Cook University, Australia;

85 scientists and climate experts who signed the 1995 Leipzeg Declaration which called drastic climate controls “ill-advised, lacking credible support from the underlying science;

17,000 scientists and leaders involved in climate study who signed a petition issued by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine saying there is no evidence green house gasses cause global warming;

and the 4,000 scientists and leaders from around the world, including 70 Nobel Prize winners, who signed the Heidelberg Appeal calling greenhouse global warming theories “highly uncertain scientific theories.”

There simply is no consensus, nor massive cause for alarm. You may be able to cram this down the throats of Joe Sixpack who gets his world view from "The Fair and Balanced Reporting" of Fox News, but people who actually analyze the data and think for themselves can't be so easily swayed.

BTW, I do appreciate that this discussion has remained civil throughout, and hope it continues to be so as I doubt it will be allowed to continue if it becomes too heated.
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