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I can give that phpmyadmin a try (both hosts have that and ssh) The first forum I moved using ssh commands similar to what you show in your tutorial except during the backup, there was also a -Q command. Also, after backing up but before restoring the dbase, there was a step to move it. They wanted me to use asc then put /path/to/server but it didn't seem to work. My new host suggested I use scp filename root@ipaddress:/home/dbasename and it worked. I will give your phpmyadmin move technique a try on the next move (later in the week) I am somewhat familiar with the ease of exporting/importing there. I have a funny shopping cart that I have to make changes to excel, save in .cvs format and upload to the phpmyadmin. Thanks for the help!