[mdevour]

Originally Posted by GriZzm0

I'm not 100% sure if I get what you want. But if I do. Try to edit the forumhome_forumbit_level1_nopost template to this.

<if condition="$childforumbits">
<tbody id="collapseobj_forumbit_$forumid" style="{$collapseobj_forumid}">
$childforumbits
</tbody>
</if>

Then creat a new forum and click no on "act as forum" and let all your forums have that forum as parent. That would give you a list with all your forums without the "head" part.

Alright GriZzm0! Thanks for looking in on this. I appreciate your giving it some thought.

First off, forumhome_forumbit_level1_nopost is the template that we need to deal with, yes. Your modification, if I read you right, is to delete the entire first <tbody>...</tbody> code block that displays the category title and link, the description, the collapse control button, and the subforum links, if you've selected that option...

This leaves me with the category not displaying anything at all, which actually strips out more than I intended. You got close, GriZzm0, and it really helped me make some progress. Thank you.

I am really amazed at how hard it is to get across what I want. You guys are not dumb! I'm trying as hard as I can to communicate, and I still only succeed in confusing people!

I want a single line of plain text (not a link) to be displayed in the forum list ahead of a group of forums or between groups of forums. It can look exactly like a forum set to act as a category, but without any of those extra behaviors; no link attached to the category name and no button for collapsing or expanding the category...

I can delete parts of that first block of code and display only the $forum[title] and description, something like this:

<tbody>
	<tr>
		<td class="tcat" colspan="<if condition="$vboptions[showmoderatorcolumn]">6<else />5</if>">
			
			$forum[title]

			<if condition="$show['forumdescription']"><div class="smallfont">$forum[description]</div></if>
			</div></if>
		</td>
	</tr>
</tbody>

That seems to do what I want in the narrow case where that's all that I want, ever, but it cripples the code if I also happen to want another group of forums to exhibit vBulletin's standard category behavior.

I'm making that distinction because it's obvious to me sitting here that the behavior of the forumhome_forumbit_level1_nopost template is inappropriate for the absurd case of a category with no subforums, but that same case could be made useful for displaying a simple category header such as I want.

If you understand that much, then the obvious next question is:

Is there already a flag, bit field, variable, or something that I can use within the forumhome_forumbit_level1_nopost template to test whether the forum being displayed is being used as a category and has no subforums?

If you don't understand the above, then nothing is obvious!! :laugh:

I apologize once again for being so bloody obscure...

Mike D.