This has been bothering me for awhile
 

Ok I see these nice tables on forums and site everywhere and I want to know how do they get that black line around them and such

Example in the attachment

border="1"

When I do that I get this little stupid grey boarder thing.

it maybe your CSS

You set border="0" and you should get the vB Border.

Uhhh I get nothen around it with it's set to 0.

Model your tables after vB's method (a nested table in an outer table) and you'll never have the problem.

Did you try bordercolor="whatevercolor"? I tried it once and it did seem to work. Rather that, or one of my co-admins was playing around with it. ^^;;

yeah I did, but the line stays the same thickness. =\

place this in your <table> tag

style="border: 1px solid #FFFFFF;"

Change the #FFFFFF to the hex color of your choice.