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dstruct2k 07-24-2004 03:15 AM

New hacks --- HTL, non, or both?
 
Just something I was wondering about... I'm creating quite a few hacks, and I was wondering if it would be better (to you, the end user; I'm happy either way) if future hacks were HTL-compatible or not.

This is just a quick check to see:
  1. Who uses HTL
  2. Who likes HTL
  3. Who actually reads posts in the lounge (lol)
I'd appreciate it very much if you voted on this. :)

Andreas 07-24-2004 03:34 AM

For simple hacks TXT only as this has less overhead, for bigger hacks (eg. thos whioch require seveal templates, phrases, etc.) i'd prefer HTL.

Zachery 07-24-2004 03:59 AM

While it is more time consuming i make, or have matt make installers, which we borrowed(asked for permission to use) from Tigga aka Brian.

Its not that i dont like the HTL, its great for early releases and tracking things, but overall it still has a few bugs that make life harder for the end user.

i would NEVER want to see htl only.

Serge 07-24-2004 04:08 AM

I like the idea that HTL is based on. Having a log of all the hacks you have installed and the file changes you have made.

What I don't like is all the redundant features. I think hack authors need to look at installcore.php and upgradecore.php. The vBulletin team never said to delete those and with regard to installing hacks those two files contain the necessary functions to do everything HTL does. I believe Wyane or one of the vBulletin team may have hinted at this.

So I'm with Zachery and I never want to see HTL alone but I don't mind having both.

Koutaru 07-24-2004 06:43 AM

HTL is actually very very useful for phrases and templates but not neccessarily needed. A HTL version would be nice but definately not required in my eyes. :p As long as there's an installer, I'm good

Oblivion Knight 07-24-2004 08:32 AM

I used the HTL during it's early days, but in the last upgrade I did - I removed it since I hardly use it anymore. There's hardly any support, I'm not sure if Kura is going to continue developing it any time soon (he's closing down EvB) and not many people seem to be releasing HTL compatible hacks.

It's a great idea, but it's lacking in a few areas..

sabret00the 07-24-2004 09:06 AM

yeah i used it but it's a dead duck of a product so kinda useless but it was a good dream, manual installer i guess :)

Dean C 07-24-2004 11:22 AM

Well we don't allow HTL only modifications here anyway :) You have to provide a txt installer also.

Link14716 07-24-2004 06:10 PM

I used to use it, but it has some bugs and limitations that made me restrict using it for only alpha/beta releases where I am just too lazy to make a full installer.

Dan 07-24-2004 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dstruct2k
Just something I was wondering about... I'm creating quite a few hacks, and I was wondering if it would be better (to you, the end user; I'm happy either way) if future hacks were HTL-compatible or not.

This is just a quick check to see:
  1. Who uses HTL
  2. Who likes HTL
  3. Who actually reads posts in the lounge (lol)
I'd appreciate it very much if you voted on this. :)

I myself used HTL for awhile untill everyone +++++ed about it so I still use it for myself but I can no longer do HTL only because people complained here about it.


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