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Velocd 05-24-2004 01:37 AM

US draft in 2005?
 
The Republican government is hoping for it in June 2005.

It seems they're pushing legislation silently until the election of 2004 is confirmed, so that it doesn't hurt Bush's chances.

If Bush was confronted to announce his support for the draft, his chances of winning the election would surely be altered.

http://congress.org/congressorg/issu...ua_congressorg

Not sure how old that article is, but I came across it today. It's interesting how little I see/read about the draft in the news.. they really are trying to keep it on the low. Pft.

Hopefully there is enough common sense in people to understand the draft does more bad then good (e.g. Vietnam), and thus vote against any draft measures.

There will be no college deferment either, which would utlimatley hurt the economy if you send off to war future prospects.

Reeve of shinra 05-24-2004 01:53 AM

Its been on the table since early 2003 I think but there has been little discussion in congress on it.

KTBleeding 05-24-2004 05:16 AM

Seriously.. if draft is issued..
Yeah.. Hmm. I'll probably shoot myself in the leg or arm.
I can't KILL another human being so it would be pointless for me to go.
I know I'm not even close to being alone on this..

tgillespie 05-24-2004 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KTBleeding
Seriously.. if draft is issued..
Yeah.. Hmm. I'll probably shoot myself in the leg or arm.
I can't KILL another human being so it would be pointless for me to go.
I know I'm not even close to being alone on this..

There is other things to do in the Military than kill people. Personally I would go, and personally, I don't think it would be all that bad of an idea. The only way the Jews are surviving today is because of a draft.

Boofo 05-24-2004 05:52 AM

I disagree with some of the posts above. I think the draft should be enabled. I would have gone to Iraq myself if they would have let me. The problem with the war we are in now is because we are using week-end warriors (what the reserves are referred to by the full-time military) who aren't as well trained as a full-time military would be. This war would be a lot further along and our boys would be coming home sooner if we have a well-trained military over there. And there probably wouldn't be near as many deaths as there have been. The draft is the only way that will happen with the way everyone seems to think of the military these days.

assassingod 05-24-2004 06:09 AM

A draft seems unfair, and to me, a US draft tells me the USA are losing soldiers so they need more.

Boofo 05-24-2004 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by assassingod
A draft seems unfair, and to me, a US draft tells me the USA are losing soldiers so they need more.

It's not that wqe are losing soldiers, it's guys with the attitude that they don't want to server their country that aren't signing up. If more people would want to server their country, they wouldn't have to have a draft.

Serge 05-24-2004 01:12 PM

This is what I can't stand for in this bill. To be in the house you must be atleast 25 years old I believe. And to be in the senate you have to be at least 30 years old. The proposed bill suggests that anyone age 18 to 25 serve a 2 year period of service. Who is protecting me up in DC? Since no one in that age group is in Congress, save a few House members maybe, who is there to protect me? This is like your parnets telling you you have to join metal shop or something I honestly be no draft without proper representation in congress.

On another note I have thought hard and long about whether I would go into the service or not. I'm still undecided but I know I don't want to be on the front lines being shot at. While I believe true peace can probably never be achieved and you must fight for freedom I would rather be helping those on the front lines than actually be on the front lines. If I went anywhere it would probably be to the Air Force as a computer programmer or something.

Boofo 05-24-2004 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serge
This is what I can't stand for in this bill. To be in the house you must be atleast 25 years old I believe. And to be in the senate you have to be at least 30 years old. The proposed bill suggests that anyone age 18 to 25 serve a 2 year period of service. Who is protecting me up in DC? Since no one in that age group is in Congress, save a few House members maybe, who is there to protect me? This is like your parnets telling you you have to join metal shop or something I honestly be no draft without proper representation in congress.

It's been that way since way before I can rememeber and it will always be like that. I really don't want an 18-year-old representing me in Congress OR the Senate. They haven't been around long enough to be able to represent like they should. It isn't their fault, but with age comes wisdom.

Quote:

On another note I have thought hard and long about whether I would go into the service or not. I'm still undecided but I know I don't want to be on the front lines being shot at. While I believe true peace can probably never be achieved and you must fight for freedom I would rather be helping those on the front lines than actually be on the front lines. If I went anywhere it would probably be to the Air Force as a computer programmer or something.
If everyone felt the way you do, there would be no soldiers on the front lines for you to help and support. They'd all be computer programmers or something. What about the guys who were on the front lines defending your freedom and way of life? Aren't they worth remembering and fighting for?

assassingod 05-24-2004 02:44 PM

Although I am underage and I don't live in the US, I would still oppose a draft, I don't like the idea of having to fight when I don't want to. However i'm not saying I would serve, but if I did I would do it on my own free will (or if im really bored)

(I'm opening up my house for draft-dodgers, stay here until the war ends:))


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