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SaN-DeeP 04-18-2004 10:09 AM
My members are Quitting my Forums, They say Vbulletin is reason for that ??.
 
Hi all,

PHP Code:
I had invision power forums running on my site previously and now shifted myself to vbulletin.. 
since i have bough vbulletin my forums have GONE terrificly slow. 
I have lost almost 50 members, who requested me to delete there ids on forums :(. 
  
Can someone please help me here to tweak my board. 
I have been visiting vb.org and vb.com regularly both of them are VERY FAST enough... but not my forums. 
Not sure what is wrong.. 
 
Need SERIOUS help here. 
 
Also Google used to Archive my entire site contents, now only the first page of forum is indexed :( 
Need HELP from Advanced Members here...

Thnx n Regards,
Sandy...

Choclo 04-18-2004 10:24 AM
Strange... I understand that your board is terribly slow?? If so, please provide with more info about PHP ver. MySQL ver. Linux or Windows... etc.

BTW... why PHP Code?

sabret00the 04-18-2004 10:54 AM
what's the url to your board?

Dean C 04-18-2004 11:12 AM
Members in general don't care about what forum software you're running. Macfora - a long time user of vBulletin - switched back to IPB and their community is thriving as ever. There will most likely be a deeper root cause as to why your members are unhappy. Do remember, whilst you can provide your members with hacks and tools to expand the forum software, the real root and reason people stay at a community is because it is a community. That is what you need to work on in the long run by the sounds of things :)

Brewer 04-18-2004 11:37 AM
I agree with Dean, most users don't care what software you use as long as it's easy to use and not full of bugs. If vB is slower that IPB then there is a problem with the server because I have found vB to be much better at handeling load than any of the free boards, especially since 3.0 has come out.

If there is a problem with the way the board is run you might want to visit The Admin Zone for some help in getting it worked out. They have some really good information there.

SaN-DeeP 04-18-2004 01:08 PM
Hey all,

I have used quotes, so that only legit users can watch this post.
some privacy issues, i have a few users on here, who use pirated copies of vb to use on there forums and are competing against my site.
hence, do not want them to see the details.

i guess, all the stuff in code tags is not viewable by those users.

PHP Code:
My Site Url - [url]www.tech-arena.com[/url]
forums - [url]http://forums.tech-arena.com[/url]
 
a small example of that is: arcade.
when all the images and even .swf files are downloaded from arcade. and if a user again goes back to download from arcade. those images and .swf files get downloaded on clients machine again.. this very annoying :(
 
My Server Details are: (got from first page of admincp)
Server Type Linux; PHP v4.3.3; Apache v1.3.29 
MySQL v4.0.18-standard 
PHP Maximum Upload Size 2M 
PHP Max Post Size 55M 
PHP Memory Limit None 
MySQL Maximum Packet Size 16.00 MB 
phpinfo (got this info from admincp-> important and maintenace-> view php info)
System  Linux server1.mish-hosting.com 2.4.25-grsec #1 Sun Feb 22 23:59:33 CST 2004 i686  
Build Date  Feb 3 2004 22:29:43  
Server API  Apache  
Virtual Directory Support  disabled  
PHP API  20020918  
PHP Extension  20020429  
Zend Extension  20021010  
Debug Build  no  
Registered PHP Streams  php, http, ftp, compress.zlib  
Configure Command  './configure' '--with-apxs=/usr/local/apache/bin/apxs' '--with-xml' '--enable-bcmath' '--enable-calendar' '--enable-ftp' '--with-gd' '--with-jpeg-dir=/usr/local' '--with-png-dir=/usr' '--with-xpm-dir=/usr/X11R6' '--with-mcrypt' '--enable-magic-quotes' '--with-mysql=/usr' '--with-pear' '--enable-sockets' '--enable-track-vars' '--with-ttf' '--with-freetype-dir=/usr' '--enable-gd-native-ttf' '--enable-versioning' '--with-zlib' 
If some other info required please let me know
and help me retain the users.
as we are from india, majority of members, have 56k dialup lines.

when we used to be on invision forums where very very fast.
The best thing, is vb.org and vb.com both are extremely fast for me and even many other forums using vb
i need tweak help from advanced users here.

Regards,
Sandy...

Dean C 04-18-2004 02:02 PM
Well a good start is if your competitors are using pirated reports then report them @ www.vbulletin.com/piracy.php - that way they'll be bye bye within a few months :)

Boofo 04-18-2004 09:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaN-DeeP
Hey all,

I have used quotes, so that only legit users can watch this post.
some privacy issues, i have a few users on here, who use pirated copies of vb to use on there forums and are competing against my site.
hence, do not want them to see the details.

i guess, all the stuff in code tags is not viewable by those users.

PHP Code:
My Site Url - [url]www.tech-arena.com[/url]
forums - [url]http://forums.tech-arena.com[/url]
 
a small example of that is: arcade.
when all the images and even .swf files are downloaded from arcade. and if a user again goes back to download from arcade. those images and .swf files get downloaded on clients machine again.. this very annoying :(
 
My Server Details are: (got from first page of admincp)
Server Type Linux; PHP v4.3.3; Apache v1.3.29 
MySQL v4.0.18-standard 
PHP Maximum Upload Size 2M 
PHP Max Post Size 55M 
PHP Memory Limit None 
MySQL Maximum Packet Size 16.00 MB 
phpinfo (got this info from admincp-> important and maintenace-> view php info)
System  Linux server1.mish-hosting.com 2.4.25-grsec #1 Sun Feb 22 23:59:33 CST 2004 i686  
Build Date  Feb 3 2004 22:29:43  
Server API  Apache  
Virtual Directory Support  disabled  
PHP API  20020918  
PHP Extension  20020429  
Zend Extension  20021010  
Debug Build  no  
Registered PHP Streams  php, http, ftp, compress.zlib  
Configure Command  './configure' '--with-apxs=/usr/local/apache/bin/apxs' '--with-xml' '--enable-bcmath' '--enable-calendar' '--enable-ftp' '--with-gd' '--with-jpeg-dir=/usr/local' '--with-png-dir=/usr' '--with-xpm-dir=/usr/X11R6' '--with-mcrypt' '--enable-magic-quotes' '--with-mysql=/usr' '--with-pear' '--enable-sockets' '--enable-track-vars' '--with-ttf' '--with-freetype-dir=/usr' '--enable-gd-native-ttf' '--enable-versioning' '--with-zlib' 
If some other info required please let me know
and help me retain the users.
as we are from india, majority of members, have 56k dialup lines.

when we used to be on invision forums where very very fast.
The best thing, is vb.org and vb.com both are extremely fast for me and even many other forums using vb
i need tweak help from advanced users here.

Regards,
Sandy...
The Arcade, while being an execellent hack, is known for what you are referring to. John is aware of this and plans on re-tooling some queries for the next release. I get MySQL Microstats percentages spiking at over 40% on 19 queries on some pages so if that is what they are referring to, it has nothing to do with vBulletin itself.

Dras 04-18-2004 11:11 PM
I have acully noticed that there are more tables in VB3 then in VB2, this concerns me since there are like 40 on VB2 and now 80 on VB3. would'nt this slow down the software since it is having to connect to more places? I have acully noticed this aswell. I am running Apache2 with PHP 4.3.5+MySQL 4, and it's slow. It's getting out to the internet, it's a 127.0.0.1, host/IP.

But try upgradeing to 4.3.4, there are bug fixes and some optamization fixes in there that might boost the speeds of VB, if you want go to 4.3.5, that's what I am using and have had 0 problems!

Serge 04-19-2004 12:08 AM
No you make one database connection which holds all of your tables. More tables really doesn't mean slower or faster but maybe more organized and more features.


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