Minimum characters per visitor message?
 

I'd like to lower the minimum characters per visitor message in vB3 without changing the minimum characters per post. Is it possible to set these settings individually? Each time I change the "minimum characters per post" in the Message Posting options it changes both the post and visitor message minimum, which I don't want as I want them to have different values. Thank you!

Updated after reading OP again

I'm not sure you can change one without the other, my quick fix suggestion would be to add a guest condition to editor_toolbar_off template and add the pattern and required attributes to the textarea:

Find:
Before add:
Then change 10 to whatever amount you wish min to be.

This is just a quick fix, I'm sure someone else would come up with a better solution.