Uh oh, i hope this isn't right
 

man, I've been using vbulletin for so many years it's funny In fact, I remember the big scramble the forum members made back in somewhere around 2000 that I was changing from UBB Forums to vBulletin.

That was FOURTEEN years ago. holy mackeral!

I don't run much with forums now, but i do still have a few clients using it. Recently I decided to upgrade one to vb5 connect with the mobile suite. I didn't do a ton of research, Iv'e been thinking about it for awhile, but the horrid price bothered me. especially getting only a 40 dollar discount for all my v4 licenses.

Anyway, I bought the software and before I did the install I decided to poke around and see what new nifty mods/products were out.

The mod/style forums are like graveyards. is it just me? am I missing something?

what in the world happened?

No, you did not miss anything. Most developers won't work with vB5 because of the lack of the hooks system in the core.

Sad to say, it might get added at some point, but I doubt many of the developers will come back, as they have moved on to other things or other forum platforms.

vB5 is very new, and as I understand it, essentially rewritten software. Many of the coders from the vB3/vB4 days are no longer developing for it, and the current version is pretty much considered too new and buggy to invest too much time in just yet. I'm also under the impression that it doesn't have a hook system yet, but maybe I'm looking at old info.

There's considerable bias against vB5 at this stage from the development community. Whether it's justified or not, it's had an effect on the number of mods available, and the number of coders stil on vBulletin.

Ummm, it is not new, vBulletin 5 Connect was released as a stable 'gold' product on 21 February 2013 still missing many features

Yes the hooks system is still missing.

yeah I'm certainly not going to chastize it, it just really shocked me that i had to change the default thread view just to see anything. years back I'd be inundated with mods looking in there.

what a bummer.

I suppose it doesn't help that much of the board community migrated to Facebook

It might not help, but it does not hurt it as much as one would think.

Forum based sites are doing just fine. vB5 had issues from the get go, and it's release 3 years after alot of people paid already to upgrade to vB4, put a sour taste in their mouths.

I'm 41. That's new to me. :erm:

i see what you're saying but forums are no where near as popular as they used to be, and twitter/facebook have a lot to do with the evolution of community communication.

i mean obviously i'm not saying forums are dead, but their prominance is substantially lower than it was 8 years ago

I'm just a little bummed. I also wasn't aware of the lack of hooks which bothers me because I had intentions of developing some things, but that might not be possible.

I'll figure it out, just very surprised. I'm definitely not looking to change platforms at this point.

How hard are these hooks? I'm guessing hooks are something to hook features onto?
If that's what's killing vb5 then why wouldn't that be the first thing they fix?

They removed them intentionally in vB5. :P