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8thos

06-07-2011 10:22 AM

What's The Point of E-Mail Confirmation?

My site's e-mail confirmation is broke so I disabled it.

So I started thinking, if someone uses a fake e-mail account to register, would it matter since their IP is logged?

If they forget their password and the e-mail account is wrong then their screwed. Yes I know.

Nor will they get notifications. But is it really that serious? I've noticed a lot of people will sign up but not get to post because of email confirmations.

and I'm not worried about spam bots. Question and Answer fixes that easily.

Disasterpiece

06-07-2011 11:34 AM

Discussed this recently: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...24#post2204324

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So I started thinking, if someone uses a fake e-mail account to register

Your choice to do something against this. There are enough methods to keep trashmail adresses outside and it's only important that the user specifies an email adress where he can receive emails.

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If they forget their password and the e-mail account is wrong then their screwed.

Not your problem.
Also: There's a contact form users can use if their account is important to them.

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I've noticed a lot of people will sign up but not get to post because of email confirmations.

If they won't even click on a simple activation link, I wouldn't bother much about them. But that's just my opinion.

8thos

06-07-2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Disasterpiece (Post 2204573)

Discussed this recently: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...24#post2204324

Your choice to do something against this. There are enough methods to keep trashmail adresses outside and it's only important that the user specifies an email adress where he can receive emails.

Not your problem.
Also: There's a contact form users can use if their account is important to them.

If they won't even click on a simple activation link, I wouldn't bother much about them. But that's just my opinion.

I clicked on your link and says I don't have permission to view.

I also didn't care if a member wouldn't bother clicking to view activation links.

but as I've been having lots of issues with my site crashing etc, I'll take em however way I can.

Boofo

06-07-2011 07:01 PM

And watch your SPAM count up up right along with it. ;)

8thos

06-07-2011 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Boofo (Post 2204714)

And watch your SPAM count up up right along with it. ;)

Nah. Security Question and Answer fixes that easily.

For instance, ask a spam bot a random question like:

'Name of member with ninja avatar'

and it can't answer. If it's a person who joins just to spam, they'd have to do some searching first. Most spammers don't have time for that so they'll give up.

Boofo

06-07-2011 09:33 PM

Spammers will use the lack of email verification to get in and post their links. That is the general idea. Plus, when you start getting emails bounced because they gave you a fake email address, hosts usually don't like it.

nitra1000

06-07-2011 10:48 PM

While the QandA might solve your spam problem, hotmail and the like will spambox you if you send too many notifications to incorrect accounts

Disasterpiece

06-07-2011 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Octavius. (Post 2204764)

for automated attacks, you're right.
For attacks directed specificly to your forum, this might be one less barrier.

vijayninel

06-08-2011 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Boofo (Post 2204714)

And watch your SPAM count up up right along with it. ;)

This is completely wrong an misleading. I dont have e-mail verification on my site and have 0 spam despite being specifically targeted by human spammers in addition to bots.

Bots and human spammers can create e-mail accounts and verify them as well. e-mail verification is quite useless for preventing spam and is an inconvenience to general users. I would suggest not to use it.

Boofo

06-08-2011 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by vijayninel (Post 2204912)

No, it is not wrong and misleading. Spammers look for sites like yours where they don't have to prove who they are. That makes dissemination of spam all that much easier. If they aren't doing spam in posts, you can almost bet they are doing it in PMs.

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