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Shelley_c 07-28-2009 06:35 PM

Knife Crime in the United Kingdom
 
Is the law in the uk tough enough on criminals who wield knives and take lives?

lasto 07-28-2009 07:16 PM

simple answer - NO

but without more detterents in place then they cant enforce any laws.
Criminals know it and act on it.

UKBusinessLive 07-28-2009 08:35 PM

The Government in the UK have changed the method of how certain Crime is reported, In fact there are now more knife crimes that goes unpunished than ever before, But labour have only taken into account the actual Crimes which involve knives, and not the amount of times a kid has been caught with a knife, (which we all know is a crime in its own right - Carrying an offensive weapon) Thats why the totals are wrong.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2009/07/6.jpg

Also the majority of Knife carrying criminals are simply given cautions, and we all know what a waste of everyones time that is.

There should be a simple rule, nothing too complicated that will confuse, our government. Get caught with a knife = 6 Months in Prison - Simple (My 12 year old daughter, came up with that idea!!)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6459265.stm

Quote:

Labour's record on knife crime was again under scrutiny yesterday after it was revealed that an offence involving a knife is committed every 24 minutes.
Figures from 37 police forces, published by the Mail, showed there were 5,500 serious crimes involving knives in just three months this year.

The statistic equates to one every 24 minutes, around the clock, and includes 55 knife-related murders, more than 2,000 stabbings and almost 2,500 muggings at knifepoint.
The Tories immediately criticised the Government for ignoring the true extent of the knife problem on Britain's streets and claimed its denial of the seriousness of the issue was adding to the problem.

Critics also pointed the finger at Labour for failing to enact tougher measures against perpetrators of knife crime, and insisted they needed to take the issue far more seriously.
Shadow home secretary David Davis claimed the figures showed the Government was in denial.

He said: "These shocking figures betray the desperate state of violent crime under this Government."
Heres a chart of Knife crime around the UK for 2007, So fare they havn't got any better.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2009/07/7.jpg

So easy, no pussyfooting around, get caught, go to jail, whats so hard about that!!

JakeS 07-28-2009 09:09 PM

Nope, one of my friends was threatened with a knife, he attacked the person by punching him (the person who had the knife).

He got done, due to hitting a guy under 18.. rather than the guy who had the knife.. You call that justice?

But then again, if you kill someone, you get a slap on the rist, say 24 year sentence, and 10 if your good boy? They should be hanged I'd say!

1Unreal 07-29-2009 03:45 AM

Nope. And every single person in the UK is going out murdering loads of people. Raping as they please, stealing cars and taking drugs. Then they go home and read the daily mail like nothing ever happened.

valdet 07-29-2009 05:14 AM

Hi Gerry, all,
Forgive my ignorance, as I am not a UK resident. But is the situation that bad or maybe you're reading to much of "The Sun" daily newspaper.

Is this due to large influx of emigrants from East European countries: Bulgaria, Romania etc..

Shelley_c 07-29-2009 06:39 AM

I think it's safe to say that knife crime was always a prominent part of united kingdoms social life long before the eastern European countries were accepted into the European Union.

People that read into the newspapers too much would not have experienced knife crime, the type that sit on the fence and want all the facts published when infact the facts are manipulated by government to suit their agenda to gain an extra term in a job which brings great benefits to them.

Then you have the people that sit on the fence and don't know anything or live in the country that is being discussed that think they know it all. Probably the people that you can compare to that mother who new her daughter was being raped as a kid but did not do anything because they never had the facts to prove it. Or had the statistics written down in black and white on a A4 document.

Anyway, Knife crime was always on the rise and I can honestly say has nothing or has a minimal amount of influence from the eastern European countries entering the EU.

The law is a shambles, criminals know they'll get away with it and if they are found guilty they can put forward some kind of insanity plea or loop hole found in many of our laws to get a soft sentence and a comfy stay in prison watching tv on that 50 inch lcd screen payed by the hard earning taxpayers.

It's that bad because government have their agendas, too many judges do not pass down the appropriate punishment and too many cowards sit on the side lines and quote documents all day because they are pure cowards.

Vinyljunky 08-01-2009 04:37 PM

As one of our monachs would say "Off with their heads!" ;)

UKBusinessLive 08-01-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinyljunky (Post 1859663)
As one of our monachs would say "Off with their heads!" ;)

Ha Ha What ever happened to those good olde days :D:D:D

Rapscallion 08-01-2009 09:10 PM

Regicide, mostly.

Rapscallion


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