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rob01 03-11-2009 01:46 AM

illegal or legal?
 
it could be illegal or legal if i use this term

"Hello there NAME Can you please view "Our Sponsors" Every 12 hours to help us out. Thank you NAME, we'd really appreciate it."

if inside the "Our Sponsors" is a google add and some/a top-website stuff

what you think so?

i have seen some website using this method but I'm not sure if its legal/okay to use

opinions?

dismas 03-11-2009 01:52 AM

I believe that Google's TOS says that you can't encourage your visitors to click links, etc.

BSMedia 03-11-2009 03:02 AM

I guess it depends on which advertising program your using or if you have private banner ads or what not.

Either way, I doubt its illegal Its more likely to be against TOS. Big difference.

rob01 03-11-2009 03:59 AM

but you are not encouraging people to click over google ads, since u only say click over our sponsors

is not saying click over google adds

why is illegal or against google TOS?

sponsors can mean anything

dismas 03-11-2009 04:16 AM

It's against the Google TOS because they pay you per click. So you're basically just asking your users to pad your wallet. They aren't legitimately interested in the products/services offered by the advertisers.

Yes, by saying "sponsors", you could be referring to anything such as local retailers that you've worked out a deal with to display their banners. But Google probably won't worry about the semantics of your argument. They have enough other accounts that they don't need to worry about cutting you out by violating their TOS with your "but I just used the word 'sponsors'" argument.

rob01 03-11-2009 05:02 AM

eh first of all, i don't use this, i just sayd before that there are many websites which use this system

and guess what.... they are still in google... ......... sooo why google don't ban them?

dismas 03-11-2009 05:50 AM

No, I don't know what you do or what ad system you use. Nor do I really care. I was just using you as an example. That's not the point. The point is that it goes against the TOS of ad companies because it doesn't generate "natural" clicks.

And yes, I'm sure there are many sites that ask for their users to click on ad links and are getting away with it. It's not a perfect world. Some people get away with things that they're not supposed to be doing and others get caught. Google is many things but it isn't omniscient.

You asked for opinions in your first post and I've given you mine. If you don't like it, that's fine. I don't care.

BSMedia 03-11-2009 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob01 (Post 1765459)
eh first of all, i don't use this, i just sayd before that there are many websites which use this system

and guess what.... they are still in google... ......... sooo why google don't ban them?

You can't display text or images that entice users to click on CPC program advertisements for most major programs such as Yahoo, Google, MSN, etc etc. Its just a violation of their TOS that usually ends in you losing any funds in the account and having your account closed. Since advertisers are paying, for each click, rather than impressions, this is a pretty big concern of CPC companies.

If you are using other advertising programs such as impressions, or just banner exchanges, then you're probably okay telling users to to click on ads as much as they want since they aren't paying for clicks, but rather impressions no harm is usually done here.

Either way, if you're using a 3rd party system to deliver your ads, its best to check their TOS to save yourself the time and head ache.

TigerC10 03-11-2009 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob01 (Post 1765459)
eh first of all, i don't use this, i just sayd before that there are many websites which use this system

and guess what.... they are still in google... ......... sooo why google don't ban them?

If you report the sites that are violating the terms of service agreement with google, then google will lock their accounts for fraud.

BigJohnny 03-11-2009 10:39 AM

I knew a guy who did this, he stole a bunch of stuff from one of my boards, and had a post on his somewhere that just said "please help support us, click our ads to help keep the server going" .... I reported this to google, as he only had adsense ads no other sponsors.

I got en email from him not 30mins later +++++ing that he had his adsense account deleted.

when you report it, google works fast.


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