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sunilvarma 06-18-2007 12:22 PM

Apple Caught Cheating!!
 
Apple seems to be trying too hard to promote their iPhone. They have gone as far as reporting false specs about their competitors? phones.

Link: http://www.sunilvarma.com/apple-caught-cheating/

(Please digg if you liked this - http://digg.com/apple/Apple_Caught_Cheating )

Distance 06-18-2007 12:29 PM

lol, they soon fixed it :p

sunilvarma 06-18-2007 12:39 PM

hmm, I thought I would make it to the digg frontpage! But now, I am not sure.

nexialys 06-18-2007 01:14 PM

biased opinion from a nokia fan.. this is just propaganda...

actually, the detail of the chart is right.. on the time that chart was written, the nokia didn't have the WiFi in it... this was changed in the official release of the phone, thing that apple could not evaluate on time. also, this chart is like 3 or 4 months old...

also, the moronist details of this blog... he try to converse the ability of nokia to have custom tools... that's bad to say that these tools are plugins from the internal core of nokia, not actually custom tools from anywhere on the globe... iPhone in comparaison is web-based... you can create as much tools in it that you can build on the internet...

example, the RSS feed on vBulletin can be used to create a button on your iPhone so you click on it and have the latest vB.org releases listed in a touch... and you can post/release/comment anything on vBulletin directly from your iPhone... can't be done on Nokia without the web interface - not free...

and yes, i'm a biased Mac user... i already have my own iPhone ... :) sure it is not connected to any phone company, that will be done on june 29th... but i can brose the net from my AirPort connection.. :)

sunilvarma 06-18-2007 01:42 PM

Quote:

actually, the detail of the chart is right.. on the time that chart was written, the nokia didn't have the WiFi in it... this was changed in the official release of the phone, thing that apple could not evaluate on time. also, this chart is like 3 or 4 months old...
AFAIK, Nokia included WiFi in the N95 since the initial development stages. Also, the Apple site clearly mentions that the chart is based on infromation available on June 18, 2007.

And when I am talking about 3rd party applications - I am talking about more advanced features. For example, you can install Opera on Nokia phones, you can playback DivX videos with a 3rd party application.

Quote:

also, the moronist details of this blog... he try to converse the ability of nokia to have custom tools... that's bad to say that these tools are plugins from the internal core of nokia, not actually custom tools from anywhere on the globe... iPhone in comparaison is web-based... you can create as much tools in it that you can build on the internet...

example, the RSS feed on vBulletin can be used to create a button on your iPhone so you click on it and have the latest vB.org releases listed in a touch... and you can post/release/comment anything on vBulletin directly from your iPhone... can't be done on Nokia without the web interface - not free...
FYI, the web browser on the Nokia N95 is based on Safari and hence any application that works on the iPhone's web interface is supposed to work on the N95 too.

Quote:

and yes, i'm a biased Mac user... i already have my own iPhone ... :) sure it is not connected to any phone company, that will be done on june 29th... but i can brose the net from my AirPort connection.. :)
You are not kidding, are you?

phill2003 06-18-2007 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1270997)
biased opinion from a nokia fan.. this is just propaganda...

actually, the detail of the chart is right.. on the time that chart was written, the nokia didn't have the WiFi in it... this was changed in the official release of the phone, thing that apple could not evaluate on time. also, this chart is like 3 or 4 months old...

also, the moronist details of this blog... he try to converse the ability of nokia to have custom tools... that's bad to say that these tools are plugins from the internal core of nokia, not actually custom tools from anywhere on the globe... iPhone in comparaison is web-based... you can create as much tools in it that you can build on the internet...

example, the RSS feed on vBulletin can be used to create a button on your iPhone so you click on it and have the latest vB.org releases listed in a touch... and you can post/release/comment anything on vBulletin directly from your iPhone... can't be done on Nokia without the web interface - not free...

and yes, i'm a biased Mac user... i already have my own iPhone ... :) sure it is not connected to any phone company, that will be done on june 29th... but i can brose the net from my AirPort connection.. :)

Blimey and you have a go at him for being a nokia fanboy:eek:, I am surprised you have not taken a contract out on him you seem to be taking it that seriously:up:

nexialys 06-18-2007 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunilvarma (Post 1271013)
You are not kidding, are you?

Why would i be kidding ?!... i have my iPhone for a long time and i used it on WWDC last week... but AT&T is not connecting them before the official release...

oh, and btw, the display of the charts may be listed in the last weeks, but do you think it can be evaluated to whom it may incomb to write these charts... (i hope it's not Steve Jobs who do them) and to whom may incomb to update when it's due time... because sometimes it is more related to the marketing partners than the actual company... i'm sure no company whatsoever wants to display such charts with false infos... a single "NO" is not the proof of cheating.. this is ridiculous...

and actually, comparing Nokia with Apple is non-sense... Nokia make cellphones for decades, Apple throw its first next week... we will be able to really compare in 6 months or so...

oh, actually, Safari for Windows is a crap... even from Apple... it works ok, but on a lot of paths it is not working properly...

sunilvarma 06-18-2007 02:37 PM

you must be lucky to have it.

Do you work for Apple? (I actually want to ask how did you get the iPhone!)

nexialys 06-18-2007 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunilvarma (Post 1271042)
you must be lucky to have it.

Do you work for Apple? (I actually want to ask how did you get the iPhone!)

nah, i'm not from Apple, but i was at the WWDC last week, so i had the ability like all the Developpers there to have access to a iPhone months ago, for developping apps for it...

the iPhone with a minimal extension can work as a external terminal over the AirPort network... instead of working as a phone... and it is not a secret anymore, you can use the iPhone the same way the TriCorder was working on StarTrek... you can plug an extension to it and use it for medical uses and other things.

sunilvarma 06-18-2007 02:47 PM

hows the camera? can it take great shots like the Sony Ericsson K750?


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