What would cause this
 

I'm asking here aswell as vbull incase they say tuff you have hacks installed anyway here's my problem

Why would my forum add a forum as a sub forum instead of a forum within a category when I choose to parent it to a category? On a fresh install to another database it lets me

I have always just had all my forums as forums not parented to any categories just numbered to display in the order I wanted but now I want to do this it won't any ideas?

I did a fresh install to another database to c if there is any differences in the forum table on my fresh install I see a few bits I haven't got on my original forum title_clean and description_clean being 2 I've noticed so far would this have any thing to with it and is there a way to fix it

as I though from Steve Machol at vbull

1)__ use the vb default style
if problem still exists
2)__ disable the plugin system and/or remove any mods and see if you still have the problem

if you don't want to do that .. we could go in circles just guessing but that wouldn't serve any purpose

I think the fact I have section missing from my forum table is the problem title_clean and description_clean are not there