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Brinnie 08-19-2005 07:13 AM

Service Requests: Others can't reply to your threads.
 
As you can see from this thread:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...504#post755504

Others want to reply.

I've got 3 people, 4 if you include myself and a potential 5th person who's interested in a partnership for a service request... How are they supposed to express their say in this? By forwarding PM's?

I have never seen a forum set up like and see no reason to keep it like this.
It makes it 15 times harder to bring something together.

Also.
I posted a link to this thread on The Admin Zone, but unfortuanitly, this is one of those areas of the site that you have to be registered to view... Never the less, they were not very impressed by my little blue link.


That is all.
It often baffles me when staff posts stickies and lock them when there are unanswered questions...

kall 08-19-2005 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brinnie
I've got 3 people, 4 if you include myself and a potential 5th person who's interested in a partnership for a service request... How are they supposed to express their say in this? By forwarding PM's?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Site Rules
3) People who can help with the request must PM or email the requester via the forums or using the posted contact information. Do not reply in the thread with prices, web links, or email addresses - this is considered advertising. This is a REQUEST forum, not an ADVERTISING forum.

There's your answer right there. Provide contact details in the thread. If those contact details are a place where anyone can continue the discussion, then doesn't THAT allow them to express their say?

I am assuming that this would be within the definition of 'Contact Details'.

vBintense 08-19-2005 08:24 AM

If they did not close them there would be chaos, people mass promoting and such. Forcing us to view new posts all the time on a service request.

I beleive they set up that section as a comprimise to 'paid' hacks, instead of not allowing them at all they now allow a 'limited' way for those who wish to pay money to find a coder.

nexialys 08-19-2005 10:32 AM

good, another complaint from Brinnie... i come to be addict now...

Erwin 08-19-2005 11:26 PM

kall's post answered the OP's question. It's a Service REQUEST forum, not a Service OFFER forum.

Brinnie 08-20-2005 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys
good, another complaint from Brinnie... i come to be addict now...

As this has nothing to do with you, I feel that "Troll" is the appropriate word for your post.

But I suppose that is in partial for your lack of comprehension and I should have made it more clear:

I have 3 people who would like to reply.
It's in my best interest to secure my partners wishes...

Take it up with them :)





Quote:

Originally Posted by Erwin
kall's post answered the OP's question. It's a Service REQUEST forum, not a Service OFFER forum.

How would that logic translate into the Hack REQUEST forums?

Gotcha. ;)

Oblivion Knight 08-20-2005 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brinnie
I have 3 people who would like to reply.
It's in my best interest to secure my partners wishes...

Perhaps it's in your best interests, but seriously all hell would break loose if other users were able to reply to service requests, and it would create a huge moderating task.

The current setup is appropriate enough I feel if contact details are left. That way, things can be discussed and should you want all 3 people involved in the discussion, you can always arrange a 3-way-convo on a private forum, chat room or an instant messenger service.

nexialys 08-20-2005 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brinnie
Others want to reply.

Quote:

Originally Posted by -- Spock, The Wrath of Khan
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one"

... i think he was referring to your few fellows... don't mix the "others" with "everybody"... please! rules are made for the community, not for a bunch of people, even for the most important ones!

Brinnie 09-13-2005 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys
don't mix the "others" with "everybody"...

No,

Just the people who are involved with the production of the hack.

Logikos 09-13-2005 08:13 AM

I thought you were banned...

Theres no reason to change the rules of the service request... I like using PMs, and it keeps JelSoft out of harms way if something went wrong...

Marco van Herwaarden 09-13-2005 08:41 AM

The purpose of the Service Request forum is to bring people asking help for payment and people who can offer it together. It is not ment as a Project Management Workspace.

People get in contact, what happens after that don't belong in the service requests.

Paul M 09-13-2005 03:45 PM

I must admit I was tempted to skip this as soon as I saw it was yet another moan from the head of all moaners. There have been times when I would have found it useful to reply to service request threads, but accept that the policy is there for a good reason, as does everyone else (except you it seems).

Chris M 09-13-2005 03:48 PM

Every rule exists for a reason - Every rule has a good reason, but you are not always allowed to know it or are expected to understand it, just abide by it :p

Satan

Erwin 09-14-2005 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellsatan
Every rule exists for a reason - Every rule has a good reason, but you are not always allowed to know it or are expected to understand it, just abide by it :p

Satan

Well, a rule might be wrong or irrelevant. :) I don't mind people questioning the validity of the rules. It keeps us on our toes and ensures that we keep things fair. In this case, I think the rule is needed to keep that forum from being "spammed" by people offering their services. :)

Tony G 09-14-2005 09:02 AM

Just have your discussion elsewhere. There's no need for it to be public on this forum - as Marco said, its to get the help initially, and from then on, we're not the 'host'.

Chris M 09-14-2005 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erwin
Well, a rule might be wrong or irrelevant. :) I don't mind people questioning the validity of the rules. It keeps us on our toes and ensures that we keep things fair. In this case, I think the rule is needed to keep that forum from being "spammed" by people offering their services. :)

Well there is questioning, and then continual demanding for them to be changed to suit one person's needs ;)

Satan

darnoldy 09-14-2005 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erwin
I think the rule is needed to keep that forum from being "spammed" by people offering their services.

I understand (and share) the motivation for the rule.

I would like to point out a problem (from my point of view) that the rule causes--and ask that some solution be sought.

If I place a service request, a potential developer might think "Oh, that's a big job--he would never pay enough to make doing that worth my while" and so, not approach me. Or maybe he does, and he's right--it is too much for me.

However, there may be 2 or 4 (or 20) other people out there who would like the same modification (and be willing to pay for it). Now the scope of work and the pool of money to support it come into line. But they can't reply to the thread, so neither I nor any potential developer know about them.

This is why I would like to see a change.

Spamming by people offering their services is bad--facilitating the formation of groups (instead of just pairs) to develop modifications is good. I would like to find a way to encourage the second while continuing to discourage the first.

--don

Marco van Herwaarden 09-14-2005 09:40 AM

If someone else is interested in the same modification you are requesting, they can always sent you a PM. If more money is then possible, you can always reply to your own thread, stating the price went up.


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