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lierduh

07-20-2005 10:00 PM

NNTP Gateway for Usenet ( Newsgroups ), Mailing Lists

The latest version: V3.5.0Alpha 1 (21 Jul 2005)

What is it?

This hack provides a gateway from vBulletin forums to the USENET. It allows forum members to read newsgroup messages as well as to send posts to the newsgroups. In a nutshell, it turns vBulletin forums into a basic function news reader.

For an added bonus, this package also supports mailing list archive and forum to mailing list gateway. The software retrieves messages from a pop3 account and import them into the forums threaded. It also allows a forums user to send messages to the mailing list by the forum posting interface.

Why?

The gateway will be appreciated by forum members who do not know how to set up a news reader, or people who do not have port 119 open in their network. A forum interface to read and post news are often considered to be better than a news reader.

The gateway adds more contents to your forums and allows the members to interact with wider audience. It is common to see new users signing up to use this feature.

History

This hack was originally coded by Gilby for vB2. I modified the hack to work with vB3 and have been maintaining and improving the hack. I have now done the modification for this to work with vB3.5.

The very original hack by Gilby can be found here:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...7&page=1&pp=15

The vB3 version can be found here:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=65152

Features

Some of the features and improvement include:

Handles both newsgroup posts and mailing lists.
Handles MIME encoded messages and attachment.
Handles UUEncoded messages.
Two Admin Control Panels for all settings.
Automated installation.
Correct thread implementation. All imported messages and posts sent to newsgroups will be threaded correctly according to References and Message-ID headers.
Optional setting to thread by subject for mailing lists that strip references header.
Imported messages will be searchable just like normal forum posts.
Similar threads are built when the messages are imported if the system setting is on.
Multiple attachments importing.
Save attachment to database or file according to vB setting.
Thumbnail created while importing image files.
Multiple attachment post to newsgroup is also supported.
Selectable X-No-Archive header honouring system.
Light on system resources.
Global Killfile to filter out unwanted messages. Killfiles can have OR and AND effectiveness.
Strip footer by setting for incoming messages. Strips out repeated message footers.
Built options to disable signatures and footers for out going messages.

Future development

Traditional "> " lead posting interface.

What do you need and do not need?

You do not need to edit vB php files.
No need to manually run SQL.

Installation

Basically the AdminCP interfaces take care of installation as well as upgrade in the background. Back up your database first. The scripts can modify your database without alerting you!

Please follow the instructions in the readme.txt file for more details.

It is not a must to click "INSTALL" for this hack if you use it, I do try better answering the questions from people who do.

Support

Please post your support questions to this thread. Please check the FAQ in the second post within this thread first. It may be surprising, but it is possible your question is answered in the adminCP NNTP settings.

Please always provide more details about your problem. Examples and debug messages will certainly help. Well, if you don't even try to have some effort to compose your question, the answer you get may also not include much effort.:)

================== UPDATES ======================
Jul 21 2005 (release version 3.5.0 Alpha 1)

AdminCP xml file is written by Kadence.

Ported to work with vB3.5.
Existing bug fixes.
Debug message can be sent by email or logged in vB Tast Scheduler.
Known problem: image attachment thumb nail creation still needs work.
Needs to be done: Documentation.

Quick installation instruction:
1) Upload files to their correct directory
2) Enter AdminCP, click on NNTP Settings once to install/upgrade. Change settings to your like.
3) Click on NNTP Groups once to install/upgrade.
3a) For new install. Run once
http://www.yourdomain.com/setlastmsg.php

Delete this file afterwards.
If you are upgrading from an older version. There is no need to upload this file. Actually this file should not be there except brand new install.

4)
Manually run in debug mode: http://forums.yourdomain.com/gateway.php?debug=1

lierduh

07-21-2005 02:45 AM

Reserved post position for FAQ.

Q: How come there is lack of response for my support problem?
A: Perhaps it is something that is so obvious, or perhaps something should be known by reading readme file or even just go through your nntp settings. ...or if you don't even try any effort to explain your problem, you won't expect others do much to help you. If you have been using a hack, you should click 'INSTALL'. A hack author will be reluctant to help if they see you are not even acknowledging using their hack.

Q: New threads created instead of merging into the existing thread.
A: There is a setting in adminCP to find the thread by subject. Some messages/emails may not contain reference in the header for the usual threading to work.

Q: Why some user name or subject show up as =?Utf-8?B?S2ltYmE=?=
A: You need 'imap_mime_header_decode' php function. Ask your host if not sure.

tamarian

07-21-2005 02:50 PM

Great to see it for 3.5 :up: I'm still using the old perl script, but will give this a try.

AWS	07-21-2005 06:16 PM

Thanks lierduh. I won't upgrade to 3.5 until it is out of beta, but, it is nice to see this one is ready when I need it.

ART	07-25-2005 01:35 PM

Thanx lierduh, for now installed it locally but seems to work ok, the upgrade went pretty smooth :)

klaus

07-27-2005 01:41 AM

lierduh,

1st, thank you for taking the time bringing us this nice add-on.

I just installed this on 3.5RC1 and it works fine other then the admincp is somewhat screwed up, no big deal.

I did a test with the news.microsoft feed as suggested in the readme. Works fine (haven't tested posting yet). i was able to fetch thousands of posts and most of them find the reference thread (Thread found by References.).

However I am having issues with majordomo mailinglists. I am fetching from two lists. One actual busy list with about 50 new posts per day and one test majordomo I setup.

The problem is that posts don't find there reference thread and start new ones. So I end up with 5 threads on the same subject. All have the same subject line. RE.:123, RE.:123, RE.:123, 123 etc.

Is this a known issue? Is there some tuning I can do?

lierduh

07-27-2005 01:53 AM

What is the actual issue with admincp?

There is a setting you can set to use matching subject to find the thread instead of using reference in the header.

klaus

07-27-2005 02:00 AM

Thanx for the quick response.

Never mind the admincp error. I screwed up. Its fixed.
I am playing with the setting on matching subject next.

klaus

07-27-2005 03:26 AM

The Subject deal worked perfect for Mailinglist.

But attachments are ignored.
My settings: "Skip attachments no_attach 0"

"Thread found by Subject.
This forum does not allow attachments, therefore attachment ignored."

If I post in the forum I can post attachments fine. I use filesystem for my attachments by the way, not sure if that matters.

dodgez

07-28-2005 12:53 PM

admin <admin.1svs8r@test>, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR.

dodgez

07-28-2005 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgez

admin <admin.1svs8r@test>, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR.

It didn't send it as my typed in e-mail address. This is on RC1 also. Thanks for the great hack.

Cyburbia

08-01-2005 01:33 AM

I don't think it's running properly with my installation.

The instructions include:

Quote:

7. The gateway script has been designed to be run periodically. There are two ways to achieve this.

You can use the vB3's internal Scheduled tasks to run the script automatically.

Go to AdminCP, under Scheduled Tasks, create a new task to run every one hour. Enter 'gateway.php' in the filename section. Usualy you would like the script to run more often than once each hour. You can create more than one tasks to run at different minutes of the hour to achieve this.

I did just that, but when I try to run the script manually (Scheduled Tasks -> Scheduled Task Manager -> Mailing List Gateway -> Run Now) I get the source of a raw HTML file instead of the standard "Done" blue screen. Permissions are set so that gateway.php is executable, and the location of gateway.php is correct, so I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

lierduh

08-01-2005 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyburbia

I don't think it's running properly with my installation.

The instructions include:

I did just that, but when I try to run the script manually (Scheduled Tasks -> Scheduled Task Manager -> Mailing List Gateway -> Run Now) I get the source of a raw XML file instead of the standard "Done" blue screen. Permissions are set so that gateway.php is executable.

What is displayed on the screen?

lierduh

08-01-2005 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgez

It didn't send it as my typed in e-mail address. This is on RC1 also. Thanks for the great hack.

Sorry, I think I am lost.

Cyburbia

08-01-2005 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lierduh

What is displayed on the screen?

This:

HTML Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html dir="ltr" lang="en">

<head>

        <title>Scheduled Task Manager - (my site) - vBulletin Admin Control Panel</title>

        <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" />

        <link rel="stylesheet" href="../cpstyles/vBulletin_3_Default/controlpanel.css" />

        <script type="text/javascript">

        <!--

        var SESSIONHASH = "";

        function set_cp_title()

        {

                if (typeof(parent.document) != 'undefined' && typeof(parent.document) != 'unknown' && typeof(parent.document.title) == 'string')

                {

                        parent.document.title = (document.title != '' ? document.title : 'vBulletin');

                }

        }

        //-->

        </script>

        <script type="text/javascript" src="../clientscript/vbulletin_global.js"></script>



</head>

<body style="margin:0px" onload="set_cp_title();">

<div class="pagetitle">Scheduled Task Manager</div>

<div style="margin:10px">

<!-- END CONTROL PANEL HEADER -->



<p><b>Mailing list gateway</b></p><p>Done</p>



<!-- START CONTROL PANEL FOOTER -->

<p align="center"><a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/" target="_blank" class="copyright">vBulletin v3.5.0 Release Candidate 1, Copyright &copy;2000-2005, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.</a></p>

</div>

</body>

</html>

Just raw HTML.

lierduh

08-01-2005 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyburbia

This:
Just raw HTML.

I saved that as html and sent for validation. It passed without any problem. So I have no idea why your browser is not rendering that.

By the way, embedded in the html. It does have the

"Mailing list gateway Done"

Cyburbia

08-01-2005 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lierduh

Okay ... it seems to work in IE, but not Mozilla Firefox.

Just a question: has anyone gotten this to work with Yahoo Groups? Here's what I'm using:

Newsgroup/Mailing list E-mail: [nameofgroup]@yahoogroups.com
(the e-mail address a subscriber can use to send a message to the entire group.
Server: cyburbia.org
User name (only if required): [gateway email address used as email address+cyburbia.org]
(as listed for "Email Address - Choose the email address that you would like group messages sent to. My Web host requires you to put "+domainname.tld" at the end of user names for retrieving and sending e-mail.)
Password: [POP password]

ExpertDomino

08-01-2005 05:39 AM

Should this be tried on a Live Board.............can anyone show me a working demo?

Cyburbia

08-01-2005 04:10 PM

Okay ... I think I have it retrieving messages from mailing lists. However, I can't use the gateway in the opposite direction; posting in the forum and having the message appear on the list.

I posted a test message in the gatewayed forum. I ran the script in debug mode, and got the following:

Quote:

Gateway version 2.3.2 1 group(s) gatewayed.
Successfully connected to the 'cyburbia.org' pop3 server.
Retrieving 0 E-mails from the 'cyburbia.org' pop3 server.

Retrieving, yes. Sending ... no.

custsrvcrep

08-02-2005 05:49 PM

Hi Lierduh,
two questions:

1. How involved is the upgrade path from 3.0.x to 3.5.x with your usenet hack installed? It runs great on the old version and I'm not excited about the change but realize I need to upgrade :(

In other words - what is the best path? Ignore usenet hack; upgrade to 3.5.x (upon final release); THEN install revised usenet hack? If that is true, is there any affect to the database since the hack has added various fields?

OR ???

2. Have you ever integrated an automatic scheduled pruning of usenet posted messages?

Thank you.

dodgez

08-03-2005 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertDomino

Should this be tried on a Live Board.............can anyone show me a working demo?

http://gt500forums.com/testvb/index.php

dodgez

08-03-2005 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyburbia

I have the same problem as you. It just shows the html. I haven't tried it in IE tho...

Yahoo uses domain keys so you may have problems sending to their groups. I pull from them fine tho.

dodgez

08-03-2005 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgez

admin <admin.1svs8r@test>, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR.

It didn't send it as my typed in e-mail address. This is on RC1 also.

Why is it send it as admin.1svs8r@test? I think this is why I can't send to yahoo groups....

klaus

08-03-2005 04:00 PM

Everything seems to work fine....

But attachments are ignored.
My settings: "Skip attachments no_attach 0"

"Thread found by Subject.
This forum does not allow attachments, therefore attachment ignored."

If I post in the forum directly I can post attachments fine. I use filesystem for my attachments by the way, not sure if that matters. Any ideas ?

wattieuk

08-03-2005 05:28 PM

does anyone have any server settings I could use. I am on AOL and they dont allow you access to newsgroups. Cheers

lierduh

08-03-2005 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by custsrvcrep

Just upgrade to vB3.5, you may like to turn off cron job for the gateway during the upgrade.

Upload all the new gateway file, go to AdminCP and open the settings page once, it will upgrade the gateway in the background. No database conflict has been encountered.

No, I do not have any scheduled pruning happening. Our hardware should be able to handle heaps more posts, so there is no need at the moment. However I have read in the past at least one of the gateway users has something like this.

Cyburbia

08-03-2005 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgez

Yahoo uses domain keys so you may have problems sending to their groups. I pull from them fine tho.

Would domainkeys really be a problem? Mail is sent to the list from my domain, with my domain's address.

I might set up a normal experimental listserv to see if I can get integration working there.

lierduh

08-04-2005 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyburbia

Would domainkeys really be a problem? Mail is sent to the list from my domain, with my domain's address.

I might set up a normal experimental listserv to see if I can get integration working there.

You will have problem if the hosts has implemented user name and password for the SMTP server. The gateway uses php's built-in mail() function to send emails. It uses the default SMTP server on the web server.

The server/username/password settings are for pop3 only.

You can enter your own email address at "Newsgroup/Mailing list E-mail". The emails should be sent to you instead of the mailing list if you do this.

Cyburbia

08-04-2005 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lierduh

You can enter your own email address at "Newsgroup/Mailing list E-mail". The emails should be sent to you instead of the mailing list if you do this.

Quote:

If that's the case, how come vBulletin's account validation, PM notification, subscription notification and other messages get out?

I can't find the string "smtp" anywhere in any of the extension scripts, FWIW. Again, if vBulletin can connect and send through a SMTP server that has username and password implemented (if that's the case with me; I'm not positive, but like I said, I've had no problem with vBulletin validation and notification messages getting out), your script should be able to do the same. I think.

I do appreciate the work you've put into the script. I only wish I could get it to communicate in both directions.

lierduh

08-04-2005 04:15 AM

Have you had any new posts in the forums before you run the gateway? Because your debug message does not mention about "Posting Message".

If you had, then the script must have crashed due to some reason. You can find the error from the web log.

You won't find smtp in the scripts. If you need more info about mail(), please check:

http://php.mirrors.ilisys.com.au/man...ction.mail.php

Last, is your web server Windows based, or *nix based? What is your smtp setting in the php.ini if it is windows based.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyburbia

Just tried it. Posted, reran the script, and ... nothing's reaching me from the gateway by e-mail.

Here's my debug message.

Gateway version 2.3.2 1 group(s) gatewayed.
Successfully connected to the 'cyburbia.org' pop3 server.
Retrieving 0 E-mails from the 'cyburbia.org' pop3 server.

Nothing about sending e-mail from the group to the list.
You said:

If that's the case, how come vBulletin's account validation, PM notification, subscription notification and other messages get out?

I can't find the string "smtp" anywhere in any of the extension scripts, FWIW. Again, if vBulletin can connect and send through a SMTP server that has username and password implemented (if that's the case with me; I'm not positive, but like I said, I've had no problem with vBulletin validation and notification messages getting out), your script should be able to do the same. I think.

I do appreciate the work you've put into the script. I only wish I could get it to communicate in both directions.

wattieuk

08-04-2005 08:07 AM

can anyone help me by letting me know where i can get newsgroup access to configure this script. i have no newsgroup access through my isp.
thanks

wattieuk

08-04-2005 10:00 AM

All I ever get when I run this is:
Gateway version 2.3.2 1 group(s) gatewayed.
Could not connect to NNTP-server. (Connection timed out (110))

Not connected
Not connected

I could really do with some help as Id love to have this working on site.

ThePimp

08-04-2005 11:25 AM

Is there a way to only allow the importing of binary images, and display them as attachments? Skipping over .rar files and other garbage out there?

Cyburbia

08-04-2005 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lierduh

One new post. I tried posting a test message to the list, and it appeared in the Forum. It's a slow list.

Every time I run the script in debug mode, there's never anything about posting messages, even when I post several test messages -- but there's also no error emssages, either.

Here's the most recent excerpt vBulletin scheduled task log.

Quote:

2179 Mailing list gateway 09:05, 4th Aug 2005 Ran NNTP Gateway
2178 Mailing list gateway 08:05, 4th Aug 2005 Ran NNTP Gateway
2177 Mailing list gateway 07:06, 4th Aug 2005 Ran NNTP Gateway
2176 Mailing list gateway 06:07, 4th Aug 2005 Ran NNTP Gateway
2175 Mailing list gateway 05:05, 4th Aug 2005 Ran NNTP Gateway

I don't know if there's another log where I should be looking. It's shared hosting.

The server is Linux based. Some php settings:

Quote:

Linux *****.com 2.4.21-32.ELsmp #1 SMP Fri Apr 15 21:17:59 EDT 2005 i686

sendmail_from no value no value
sendmail_path /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i

wattieuk

08-04-2005 01:13 PM

can anyone please help me to get this working? I need some info to see if it works on my site. I can access through the newsreader i have but not through the script.

lierduh

08-04-2005 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyburbia

You have not turned on the do_cron_log in the settings. So the log does not show the details.

How about post one new message in the forums, then run the gateway in debug mode and post the entire debug message here.

Also post the SMTP setting here from phpinfo (you can run it from AdminCP).

lierduh

08-04-2005 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wattieuk

can anyone please help me to get this working? I need some info to see if it works on my site. I can access through the newsreader i have but not through the script.

Check out the thread in the NNTP for the vB3.0.x.

wattieuk

08-04-2005 01:52 PM

Thanks - but having read 60 pages I am still none the wiser. What I did learn though is that it does work with A Small Orange who are my server hosts. Please can someone tell me settings which work so I can test it. So many of you have it working I am sure someone can help.

wattieuk

08-04-2005 02:17 PM

Tried uninstalling and reinstalling and got this message:
1 group(s) gatewayed. Could not connect to NNTP-server. (Connection timed out (110)) Logging in to msnews.microsoft.com, group microsoft.public.access: Not connectedNot connectedMax: Min: Not connected
The settings I used were:
Newsgroup/M-list E-mail : microsoft.public.access
Server: the NNTP server. msnews.microsoft.com
Username: enter only needed
Password: enter only needed
Sender:
Set to 'use_real_email':

as per instructions.

wattieuk

08-04-2005 06:08 PM

I have found out that 'A Small Orange' doesn't allow access to Port 119 on its servers, so is there any way to use this via another port?

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