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Corriewf 05-26-2005 08:43 PM

Dont you think...
 
Dont you think that all of these other sites dedicated to vbulletin hacking and coding is really hurting the community in a whole? Is it not breaking up what used to be a very centralized organized community ? Now I will say that yes most hacks at these other sites are the same as here but some are not..... I expect that one day I will have to go to a crazy amount of sites to get hacks and or brainstorm with other developers....

Paul M 05-26-2005 08:46 PM

Nope, competition is good thing.

Corriewf 05-26-2005 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul M
Nope, competition is good thing.

How is this a competition???? What is being won?

Paul M 05-26-2005 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by corriewf
How is this a competition???? What is being won?

Are you joking ?

sabret00the 05-26-2005 08:57 PM

when this was a really tight knit community people complained that it was too clique-y

Corriewf 05-26-2005 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul M
Are you joking ?

If you are making hacks and/or helping others for competition or to gain something , thats pretty shallow.


HOTM is one thing..........

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Originally Posted by sabret00the
when this was a really tight knit community people complained that it was too clique-y


It would only become clique if people were contributing for the wrong reason like status and/or the feeling of being better then others....


I personally find it fun to code and hack. It becomes more fun when you can share your work and troubleshoot with others.

cinq 05-27-2005 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by corriewf
I personally find it fun to code and hack. It becomes more fun when you can share your work and troubleshoot with others.

Where's the list of hacks you've released on your profile ? :rolleyes: :paranoid: :D

Corriewf 05-27-2005 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cinq
Where's the list of hacks you've released on your profile ? :rolleyes: :paranoid: :D

Oh is that relevant to the point being made? Is this my first and or only user name?


Anywho. :rolleyes:


Are you declaring that my opinion holds no weight because my profile doesnt meet your standards?

Someone with a coder title please repost my opinion so we can carry on a conversation as it seems to be a prerequisite now.

cinq 05-27-2005 01:01 AM

No need to get touchy, it was a joke.

ericgtr 05-27-2005 03:32 AM

When a site is this big there is no need for them to worry, they have the market cornered on vb hacks and vb hacking discussion. Nothing wrong with other sites popping up with related content, it's typical for sites to follow the lead of the big boys.

Corriewf 05-27-2005 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cinq
No need to get touchy, it was a joke.

At whos exspense?

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Originally Posted by ericgtr
When a site is this big there is no need for them to worry, they have the market cornered on vb hacks and vb hacking discussion. Nothing wrong with other sites popping up with related content, it's typical for sites to follow the lead of the big boys.

You speak as if the people who run this site are making money off your hacks.... The best thing for the vbulletin hacking community is to be centralized.... Its just logical.

ericgtr 05-27-2005 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by corriewf
At whos exspense?



You speak as if the people who run this site are making money off your hacks.... The best thing for the vbulletin hacking community is to be centralized.... Its just logical.

Okay, so how do you prevent others from starting sites with the same content? After I started my guitar site, specializing in backing tracks, suddenly a bunch of other people (former members) started their own sites using my idea. No big deal to me, that's just the way it works. Sure there are other vb hacking sites and I personally like checking them all out but you can find just about all of them here, regardless.

Paul M 05-27-2005 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corriewf
If you are making hacks and/or helping others for competition or to gain something , thats pretty shallow.

I take it you understand that the concept of "competition" in this context means "choice", not a HOTM type competition with a prize at the end of it. Actually, from you responses, I guess not. Let me repeat it in a way you may understand better - "Choice is a good thing", or to reverse it - a monopoly is a bad thing (no, not the game before you ask .......).

Reeve of shinra 05-27-2005 05:41 AM

I dont think there are that many other sites to really be concerned with this. I can only think of 3 off hand for (non-commerical) vb hacks and they are posted here on vb.org as well.

Chris M 05-27-2005 10:12 AM

It doesn't matter where you go or what you do, someone else is going to copy your idea...

The sooner you accept it and realise that its just part of life the sooner you will stop worrying about it ;)

Satan

Corriewf 05-27-2005 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericgtr
Okay, so how do you prevent others from starting sites with the same content? After I started my guitar site, specializing in backing tracks, suddenly a bunch of other people (former members) started their own sites using my idea. No big deal to me, that's just the way it works. Sure there are other vb hacking sites and I personally like checking them all out but you can find just about all of them here, regardless.

To be honest I dont care what site I go to and if they all feeded from one database I wouldnt have an issue however they dont. The best way is to avoid those site. To submit hacks there is to feed into there cause.

Cmon this is common sense.... Do you all as coders want to have to submit your hacks to twenty different sites to reach everyone and do we as a whole want to have search 20 different sites for hacks.

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Originally Posted by Paul M
I take it you understand that the concept of "competition" in this context means "choice", not a HOTM type competition with a prize at the end of it. Actually, from you responses, I guess not. Let me repeat it in a way you may understand better - "Choice is a good thing", or to reverse it - a monopoly is a bad thing (no, not the game before you ask .......).


The only valid point you have made is that you cannot make a point without becoming condescending.

You are using monopoly and competition in poor context.

Allow me to inform you on your poorly used words in a condescending tone that you like to use.

Monopoly---- A company or group having exclusive control over a commercial activity.

Last time I checked no one here was making any money from this site or anyone's hacks.

Competition----The act of competing, as for profit or a prize.

Again Paul I ask, what have you won or could win in this competition you speak of?


What I gather is that this site is more of a think tank for vbulletin mods and/or codes. I look at it as a database of information and think that partitioning it would be very inefficient. The other sites are just redundant and making communication between vbulletin coders and those seeking information more difficult.

Chris M 05-28-2005 03:23 PM

Monopoly does not have to just refer to the economic and financial meaning of the word ;)

And competition can be interpreted as "choice" as Paul put it...

Satan

COBRAws 05-28-2005 08:20 PM

lets say, those site's hackers also post their work here. Bah, well, IP hacks and all that FTP related hacks cant be published here... so....

Paul M 05-28-2005 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corriewf
Monopoly---- A company or group having exclusive control over a commercial activity.

Last time I checked no one here was making any money from this site or anyone's hacks.

Competition----The act of competing, as for profit or a prize.

When using dictionary.com it helps to look at all the definitions. ;)

Reeve of shinra 05-28-2005 11:25 PM

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Cmon this is common sense.... Do you all as coders want to have to submit your hacks to twenty different sites to reach everyone and do we as a whole want to have search 20 different sites for hacks.
RSS feeds would be cool for a number of different reasons.

Corriewf 05-29-2005 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Reeve of shinra
RSS feeds would be cool for a number of different reasons.

That would be a good idea..... Maybe a blog of some sort.....


Like I said before I dont care about which site ( although a lot of work has gone into this one) I just think for a brighter future in the vbulletin hacking community that we should use the same medium to share our ideas.


Thanks for your google search Paul.


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