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Farox 03-05-2005 01:22 PM

How slow is slow? How fast loads your forum_home?
 
Hi all,

I am tweaking my forum and I just can't get the forum_home to load under 1 second.
Now I was wondering if I just hit a wall there.
Currently it takes 1.2 seconds to generate the page, 0.8-0.9 seconds of that is php stuff, the rest DB.
Whats your experience, anyone manages to get much faster then this?

I am not here to brag or anything, just wondering if I can do more.

Kudos,

Farox

Mark.B 03-05-2005 01:53 PM

According to Microstats my index page loads in around 0.25 seconds in most cases.
http://www.bowlandcentral.com/forum/index.php?

Page generated in 0.21706009 seconds (89.75% PHP - 10.25% MySQL) with 17 queries

This is course is with a few additional queries for various modifications.

It's a shared server too.

Farox 03-05-2005 03:32 PM

Hi Marc,

thanks a lot. I will take a look at my mods then and see what uses that much cpu time.

Farox

Jolten 03-05-2005 04:55 PM

Page generated in 0.16569 seconds with 16 queries [Server Loads: 13.30 : 10.03 : 6.30]

With Photopost random images included in forum home as well.

neocorteqz 03-05-2005 09:27 PM

Page generated in 0.16258788 seconds (92.07% PHP - 7.93% MySQL) with 11 queries

Paul M 03-05-2005 10:34 PM

Page generated in 0.12005 seconds : Page used 16 queries.

neocorteqz 03-05-2005 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark.B
According to Microstats my index page loads in around 0.25 seconds in most cases.
http://www.bowlandcentral.com/forum/index.php?

Page generated in 0.21706009 seconds (89.75% PHP - 10.25% MySQL) with 17 queries

This is course is with a few additional queries for various modifications.

It's a shared server too.

Nice stats here

Page generated in 0.16978002 seconds (98.42% PHP - 1.58% MySQL) with 9 queries

from the blue arcade. Is that the ibproarcade?

Zero Tolerance 03-05-2005 11:27 PM

It's also really dependant on your server, if your on shared hosting, then so many other sites are swolloing resources, where as if your on dedicated, its just your site on a server to itself, allowing you to execute high processes and still have things running at optimal speeds. :)

- Zero Tolerance

Mark.B 03-05-2005 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neocorteqz
Nice stats here

Page generated in 0.16978002 seconds (98.42% PHP - 1.58% MySQL) with 9 queries

from the blue arcade. Is that the ibproarcade?

Yes, that is the ibproarcade.

The Yellow Arcade is the v3 arcade.

The Green Arcade is not really an arcade at all, it's just a collection of links to flash files that have permission to be hosted but not modified, but put together in a design that resembles the other arcades.

neocorteqz 03-05-2005 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark.B
Yes, that is the ibproarcade.

The Yellow Arcade is the v3 arcade.

The Green Arcade is not really an arcade at all, it's just acollectionof links to flash files that have permission to be hosted butnotmodified, but put together in a design that resembles theotherarcades.

Nice work.

I noticed a difference between the v3arcade and the ibpro arcades, i may have to switch.

Zachery 03-05-2005 11:58 PM

From GamersEuphoira (one of the sites on my box)

(forum index)Page generated in 0.08971405 seconds (94.49% PHP - 5.51% MySQL) with 10 queries
(v3 arcade)Page generated in 0.27731705 seconds (26.79% PHP - 73.21% MySQL) with 15 queries

Mark.B 03-05-2005 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neocorteqz
Nice work.

I noticed a difference between the v3arcade and the ibpro arcades, i may have to switch.

ibProarcade is a more efficient script but is not really integrated with vBulletin. Though as you've seen, if you do it right the outside user cannot tell.

Zachery 03-06-2005 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark.B
ibProarcade is a more efficient script but is not really integrated with vBulletin. Though as you've seen, if you do it right the outside user cannot tell.

For now mark :)

ib's arcade is barely a vB hack. it tricks the system into thinking its running ipb instead of vB so it functions.

Mark.B 03-06-2005 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
For now mark :)

ib's arcade is barely a vB hack. it tricks the system into thinking its running ipb instead of vB so it functions.

This is very true. It's a bit of smoke and mirrors really but you can still use all the vBulletin variables in the skin file, so you can get the look and feel that's needed, it's just not as easy to do.

Farox 03-06-2005 10:34 PM

hmm, I don't get. The init.php alone just take .8 seconds.
With the same source, on my computer (enough ghz, 1.5gb ram...), the same results.
Zachery, I have the arcade running as well. How could you tell the difference between that and the rest?

Oh, and yes, it's a shared server, but I take that into account.

If you want to take a look, it's this forum here:

http://www.mdo-games.de

Thanks all for the numbers, btw.

I looked around and delete some templates that weren't used. That gave me .2-.4 seconds. So I am at .95 seconds...

Farox 03-07-2005 11:42 PM

anybody here running php 4.3.10 aswell? With the slow unserialize implementation

Farox 03-09-2005 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farox
anybody here running php 4.3.10 aswell? With the slow unserialize implementation

Sorry for bumping my own stuff, but it would help me a lot if anyone that posted their numbers here could add their php version as well, or send to me via pn.

shadiguy1 03-09-2005 01:03 PM

with 45 members online

Page generated in 1.09417 seconds with 25 queries [Server Loads: 0.82 ยป 0.66 : 0.74]

yah i have php 4.3.10

zurih 03-09-2005 02:19 PM

Mine:
Page generated in 0.38005 seconds with 10 queries.

neocorteqz 03-09-2005 04:50 PM

Running 5.0.3 PHP and 4.0.22 for MySQL

Drowned 03-10-2005 02:32 AM

Page generated in 2.37233400 seconds (2.25% PHP - 97.75% MySQL) with 9 queries

What's wrong with my server...? :( :( :(

M1th 03-10-2005 02:16 PM

Page generated in 0.14084792 seconds (89.87% PHP - 10.13% MySQL) with 8 queries

What freaks me out is the v3arcade page on my forums:

Page generated in 1.37409806 seconds (9.14% PHP - 90.86% MySQL) with 16 queries

neocorteqz 03-10-2005 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M1th
Page generated in 0.14084792 seconds (89.87% PHP - 10.13% MySQL) with 8 queries

What freaks me out is the v3arcade page on my forums:

Page generated in 1.37409806 seconds (9.14% PHP - 90.86% MySQL) with 16 queries


Page generated in 0.22996497 seconds (69.81% PHP - 30.19% MySQL) with 19 queries

I think all v3Arcade installs are like this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drowned
Page generated in 2.37233400 seconds (2.25% PHP - 97.75% MySQL) with 9 queries

What's wrong with my server...? :( :( :(

If you hit refresh are the numbers still the same?

Zachery 03-10-2005 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drowned
Page generated in 2.37233400 seconds (2.25% PHP - 97.75% MySQL) with 9 queries

What's wrong with my server...? :( :( :(

Are you on shared hosting?

I know at least a few of us on this thread are on dedicated boxes of some sort or another.

sirbutts 03-10-2005 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
Are you on shared hosting?

I know at least a few of us on this thread are on dedicated boxes of some sort or another.

optimize your styles
Every style created by extremepixels, and even the default ones, have comments, ++++loads of whitespace,linebreaks,tabs etc..
i removed all linebreaks, unecessary quotes, and lots of the added crap, and my page loads .5 seconds faster. it makes a big difference. if anyones interested in purchasing a style that is optimized for speed, you can im me at revengist on aim.
the style comes with arcade hack and warning hack templates already there and optimized.

KW802 03-10-2005 07:58 PM

Page generated in 0.10347 seconds with 13 queries [Server Loads: 0.02 ? 0.02 : 0.00] :)


Time for a dumb question on my behalf.... what method are you guys using to get the stats that explicitly state "(x.xx% PHP - xx.xx% MySQL)" ?

Zachery 03-10-2005 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KW802
Page generated in 0.10347 seconds with 13 queries [Server Loads: 0.02 ? 0.02 : 0.00] :)


Time for a dumb question on my behalf.... what method are you guys using to get the stats that explicitly state "(x.xx% PHP - xx.xx% MySQL)" ?

I would guess either Microstats, or Erwins version Kevin :)

KW802 03-10-2005 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
I would guess either Microstats, or Erwins version Kevin :)

I'm using Erwin's and get the output that I gave above so it must be MicroStats.

Farox 03-12-2005 11:47 AM

This is good stuff :)

Maybe we really get some tuning tips together here.

Right now I am optimizing my templates and I will post here how much that helps.

Zachery 03-12-2005 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farox
This is good stuff :)

Maybe we really get some tuning tips together here.

Right now I am optimizing my templates and I will post here how much that helps.

Templates shouldn't make much of a big deal, its your phpcode and your querys :)

neocorteqz 03-12-2005 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
Templates shouldn't make much of a big deal, its your phpcode and your querys :)

Stripping html where it isn't needed should cut down page rendering(Execution) time yes?

I found that setting CSS to files helped a small bit in page size anyways.

Acers 05-29-2005 05:48 AM

hey guys, can anyone tell the timing stats on the wo's online page?
me getting
Page generated in 0.46191 seconds with 21 queries

an at other times cos of the archive mod of easy archive who's online its going to even a max of 0.9 secs and about. Is that normal or an overkill :P


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