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Ninth Dimension 02-13-2005 03:07 PM

"Who is god?" Survey
 
Who/what is god? This is a question that people have been askingsince the dawn of civilisation. I don't propose to know the answer tothis question myself, and being an atheist, I personally don't believein god ? but a lot of people do, and it's them I'm interested in(although I also welcome atheists to come and answer the questions too? their input on god is an important as anyone else's).

I'm planning on doing a study on 'God in the Modern Age'. The study isnot designed to answer the question of god so much, but rather to tryand find out what people believe about god, and why they believe it.


Below is a link to a series of 10 questions I've designed to help giveme some insight into what people believe ? what I'm looking for arevolunteers to answer the questions for me, so I have some data to workfrom for my study. If this is something you might be interested inparticipating in, please read below.


Once the study is complete I will be publishing it at this location (http://theworldofdan.co.uk/god/),so even if you don't want to participate in this survey yourself,please feel free to bookmark this page, and return in a couple ofmonths time.


Thank you

http://theworldofdan.co.uk/god/

xlegends 02-13-2005 04:18 PM

Dan, check your email.

Ninth Dimension 02-13-2005 04:21 PM

how will i know if i've got your one (i've got 9 so far, a couple come in just recently, one of which could be yours - what's your name?)

S.Shady 02-13-2005 06:22 PM

god is the imaginary person ppl make up or believe in that is all good to at least give them a self path.

god is self help and the makers /writers of the bible knew it. these zombies follow the words that asre common sence if you think about it.

so who ever you look up to the most is god :)

george carlin !!!!!!!!!

Ninth Dimension 02-13-2005 06:26 PM

that's one opinion - why not fill in the survey and email me your answers.. that way i can be sure to include them in my study..

sirbutts 02-13-2005 07:06 PM

god doesnt exist. its a figment of dumb peoples imaginations

PennylessZ28 02-13-2005 07:19 PM

God is love

Jesus Christ, his son was sent, died and paid the price in full so that I might be washed in his blood clean of my sin.

filburt1 02-13-2005 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirbutts
god doesnt exist. its a figment of dumb peoples imaginations

You may voice your opinions, but not at the expense of manners. Do not do this again.

Brad 02-14-2005 04:13 PM

I emailed ya :)

Will be watching for the results...

Xenon 02-14-2005 06:03 PM

Hmm, it was like what?...

ah: I used to be an atheist until i noticed i am god!

so i have given you an answer ;)

kall 02-14-2005 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenon
Hmm, it was like what?...

ah: I used to be an atheist until i noticed i am god!

so i have given you an answer ;)

Wow. That must have been an interesting experience Xenon. :)

*does survey*

MAK-upl 02-16-2005 09:38 PM

No No No - i am a god and only me can be a god

so Xenon who u realy r ? :D

Ok u can be a god on mondays how about that ? :)

Xenon 02-17-2005 06:29 PM

i define every day is monday now, so ok :D

Polo 02-17-2005 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HR3rdGen
God is love

Jesus Christ, his son was sent, died and paid the price in full so that I might be washed in his blood clean of my sin.

Glad we have the same God HR3rdGen :)

Ninth Dimension 02-17-2005 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenon
Hmm, it was like what?...

ah: I used to be an atheist until i noticed i am god!

so i have given you an answer ;)

LOL, same here :D

TruthElixirX 02-17-2005 09:51 PM

I also am an active Christian. I sent in the survey.

SVTOA 02-24-2005 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirbutts
god doesnt exist. its a figment of dumb peoples imaginations

Matthew 28:20

Mark 3:29

;)

Ninth Dimension 02-25-2005 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVTOA
Matthew 28:20

Mark 3:29

;)

well, i'm going to hell then...

SVTOA 02-25-2005 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninth Dimension
well, i'm going to hell then...


Subjective conclusion. Since you, in your mind, do not subscribe to the ideology, what is there to fear then?

I am somewhat amused by the ignorance of "sirbutts", that's all. It seems thruout the history of humankind, persons of deep intellectual character have subscribed to the idea of faith, so does that faith somehow invalidate the great things they have done or accomplished? To demean them as "stupid people" seems rooted in hatred and intolerance.

What people choose to believe is their business. Includes people who choose not to believe in a Supreme Being or Creator. However, to insult people or demean them simply because they subscribe to a different concept is ignorant and hateful.

I didn't think you would bother to read those passages, however it seems that you did, so you obviously have access to a King James Bible. I do respect that you choose to believe as you do, that's your choice as a human being. I choose differently. Neither one of us is deserving of the label "dumb people"

I'm quite certain that many a "numerical Genius" professes a belief in a higher power or God.

Ninth Dimension 02-25-2005 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVTOA
Subjective conclusion. Since you, inyourmind,donotsubscribe to the ideology, what is there tofearthen?

Idon'tfear anything - well, that's not true - I feardogs-I've beenbittenby them before, and no doubt they'll do it again,soIstay awayfromdogs - but god on the other hand - there is notasingleshreadofevidence to prove that he exists, or that there isaheaven orhelloranything else like that..

My comment, it was a joke.. not to be taken seriously (too late, eh?).
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVTOA
I'm quite certain that many a "numerical Genius" professes a belief in a higher power or God.

WhenI was a kid, I used to believe in a magical ring that would showmethefuture- it was nothing really, just an old plastic ring Ifoundinsidea xmascracker - but to me, and my over-active imagination,itreallyshowed methe future - so I *believed* in the power of the ring-doesthat meanthe ring really was able to tell the future? Ihighlydoubtit...

Just because someone believes something, that does notmakeittrue..People *believed* that Sadam had WMD - doesn't changethefactthat hedidn't - and so what if "numerical Genius"believe-whatauthority are they? I also don't believe this sithecase,whenpresenting evidence like this, you should also includeareferecetowhere you found it, so we can examin the evidence, findoutwhomakesthis claim, and wither or not it's true...

You've a lot to learn about science my young padawan...

(PS, for the most part, I agree with what sirbutts said, Ipersonallywould not have said it in quite the same way, but I we're alldiffrent).

SVTOA 02-25-2005 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninth Dimension
Idon'tfear anything - well, that's not true - I feardogs-I've beenbittenby them before, and no doubt they'll do it again,soIstay awayfromdogs - but god on the other hand - there is notasingleshreadofevidence to prove that he exists, or that there isaheaven orhelloranything else like that..

My comment, it was a joke.. not to be taken seriously (too late, eh?).
WhenI was a kid, I used to believe in a magical ring that would showmethefuture- it was nothing really, just an old plastic ring Ifoundinsidea xmascracker - but to me, and my over-active imagination,itreallyshowed methe future - so I *believed* in the power of the ring-doesthat meanthe ring really was able to tell the future? Ihighlydoubtit...

Just because someone believes something, that does notmakeittrue..People *believed* that Sadam had WMD - doesn't changethefactthat hedidn't - and so what if "numerical Genius"believe-whatauthority are they? I also don't believe this sithecase,whenpresenting evidence like this, you should also includeareferecetowhere you found it, so we can examin the evidence, findoutwhomakesthis claim, and wither or not it's true...

You've a lot to learn about science my young padawan...

(PS, for the most part, I agree with what sirbutts said, Ipersonallywould not have said it in quite the same way, but I we're alldiffrent).


I suspect I'm much older than you are. Perhaps several hundred years...

While we're at it, yourruntogethersentencestructuremakesitsomewhatdif ficult todecipher justexacltywhat youaretryingtosaybutthatdoesnot mattersinceI haveunsubscribedfromthisthread mydisrepfulbut certaintoberecipientofbadkarmafriend.

Atheists can't find God like thieves can't find a policeman.

Ninth Dimension 02-25-2005 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVTOA
I suspect I'm much older than you are. Perhaps several hundred years...

While we're at it,yourruntogethersentencestructuremakesitsomewhat difficult todecipherjustexacltywhat youaretryingtosaybutthatdoesnot mattersinceIhaveunsubscribedfromthisthread mydisrepfulbutcertaintoberecipientofbadkarmafriend .

Atheists can't find God like thieves can't find a policeman.

OK,now you're just being silly - if you want to have a propperconversation about this, then fine, but its obvious that you just wantto act around - so i'm not interested.

(PS, I happen to think what I've put is quite clear and easy to understand - believe != fact.

rex_b 03-05-2005 01:33 PM

I see God debated everyday on my forum (www.religiousforums.com) The conclusion. He exists if you think so, end of story.

Now religion, that is a whole other debate.

lasto 03-05-2005 01:59 PM

who needs God

dont we have enough people dying in his name already.
Now lets move onto the bible - written by man - so we know its truly false
But what about the ten commandments which where carved in stone - Surely even if they where broken someone would of kept them together so where are they ?
We can find bones from thousands of yrs ago yet no proof these commandments ever existed.I suppose God is just a thing we all need to believe in at sometime or another - so we will call it faith.We used to also believe that God was in the heavens but we surpassed the heavens and went into space yet we still not seen nothing.
Now we have the churches who preach to us the word of God - we even choose to get married in church as we believe its the correct thing to do (the family unit) but yet the church has killed a lot of people itself in the name of the lord so if someone or some unit who preaches the word and love of god can massacre millions then what hope is their for us mere peasents.

Xenon 03-06-2005 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lasto
who needs God

That reminds me of a quote by a very famous german band:
"Those who don't fear the devil, don't need a god" ^^

lasto 03-06-2005 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenon
That reminds me of a quote by a very famous german band:
"Those who don't fear the devil, don't need a god" ^^

you have just hit upon another debate - Who believes in the Devil,because you cant have one without the other.

Xenon 03-07-2005 12:10 PM

oh you can have just one of both.

but you have to be beyond good and evil, or it wouldn't be possible :)

Brad 03-07-2005 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenon
oh you can have just one of both.

but you have to be beyond good and evil, or it wouldn't be possible :)

Way to sneak in a great book's title ;) I am *almost* done with the english translation I have btw :D.

Xenon 03-07-2005 05:03 PM

hehe, i read the original one twice already ;)

Cary 03-09-2005 01:19 AM

Interesting survey! I filled it out and sent it to you. :-)

Good luck!

Brad 03-09-2005 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenon
hehe, i read the original one twice already ;)

I will probbly have to do this again. I wish I knew german but I don't and will never have the time to learn it :(

I have the anti-christ to read next tho :)

why-not 03-10-2005 12:25 AM

I think most people miss the point. A belief is just that, it has nothing to do with morals or the lack of using common sense when you do something to someone else that you would not like them to do to you!

Human nature is evil, locks on door and windows only keep honest people honest! Each of us are predators, having restraint is what keeps us from killing off each other and the complete human race! Even if you do not belief in some form of deity, you do practice everyday what most of them teach in some way or form! True not all of us practice the same idea's but we all fundamentally follow the laws that are instilled in us from many of those different idea's.

On another point having been a missionary for many years, being placed in many different part's of the word I have learnt that even though I belief in my soul that what I do is for God, I know it is more to help others understand that no matter how bad life may be at any point in time that we should still have the kindness in are heart to help others live another day or help them achieve a hope so that maybe they will have a chance to find that happiness that all of us truly seek!

Sonia

Chris M 03-11-2005 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by why-not
I think most people miss the point. A belief is just that, it has nothing to do with morals or the lack of using common sense when you do something to someone else that you would not like them to do to you!


Human nature is evil, locks on door and windows only keep honest people honest! Each of us are predators, having restraint is what keeps us from killing off each other and the complete human race! Even if you do not belief in some form of deity, you do practice everyday what most of them teach in some way or form! True not all of us practice the same idea's but we all fundamentally follow the laws that are instilled in us from many of those different idea's.


On another point having been a missionary for many years, being placed in many different part's of the word I have learnt that even though I belief in my soul that what I do is for God, I know it is more to help others understand that no matter how bad life may be at any point in time that we should still have the kindness in are heart to help others live another day or help them achieve a hope so that maybe they will have a chance to find that happiness that all of us truly seek!

Sonia

What? o_O

That made little sense - I honestly don't think that I am evil, or a predator. I don't need religion or law or even morals to keep me from "killing off each other and the complete human race". I know that that would be f***ing stupid, and also I really don't want to kill anyone - Sure, there are people out there dumb enough to want to do such things, but they should just be twatted over the head with something heavy and told to shut the f*** up ;)

Satan

JohnBee 03-12-2005 03:40 PM

Well I'm not a minister nor a philosopher hell I'm not even a religious man!

But I can't help but point out a few things that have caught my attention along the
finer parts of our surroundings that seem to suggest that our existence is part of a
higher structured system beyond our own reasoning abilities.

As an educated nation how many people choose to ignore these details and work so hard
to adopt and maintain alternate explanations to support the origin and destination of
mankind? I was always aware that some people would not want to be part of a Godly
arrangement but what amazes me is the amount of people who choose an alternate theory
above the other despite the scientific advances that are at our disposition.

In my opinion, there is living life and then there is "life!" as a free moral agents
we have the greatest freedom other all other living things. The gift of reason.

Now I won't assume that everyone here shares my excitement on the origins of life.
But when I sit and contemplate things, my mind strains under the complexities of the
question at hand.

We seem to be limited by our own knowledge of the world that surrounds us. This raises
questions as to our own abilities to accurately analyze the entire higher intelligence
concept.

Although there is evidence that we have the capacity to analyze information on an abstract
level, our logical minds prove limited when we try to analyze ideas beyond our own
universe.

When I examine things that surround us, I continue to see persistent evidence of a highly
structured system beyond our control, from a logical standpoint the possibilities of a
force supporting those laws is most probable.

As for the question "who is God" the bible does address this issue in the very beginning.
Which in turn raises more questions, the bibles authenticity. It does pick my curiosity
considering the evolutionary state of mankind in that era that the bible would have been
written which raises more surprising scenario's on the state and development of mankind
along an evolutionary path.

But that is another fascinating topic all together.

I find the entire existence and origin concept a very fascinating and exciting
subject. I would encourage anyone to research within the materials that are available
to us and see for yourself that life as we know it is filled with mysteries and
characteristics that continue to prove that we are part of a world that is far beyond
our limited abilities.

I say "God" is an unknown force that exists outside our own realm, he has a personality
and seems to of taken an active role not only in the creation of everything that surrounds
us but also cares for us in a scale above all things including the documented angels.

Whoever raised this subject, I commend you. You are in some way lucky to have the maturity
to seek out your answers, many people don't really care about the God and human concept.
In most cases from discussions I have participated in along my life I found that most people
don't want to be part of a Godly driven system, that they just want to do what they want to
do and that the Idea of God at any level would put them in a position of subjection.

Well that's my take on the matter, hope someone finds my points interesting :) who knows
maybe someday I'll write a book on this fascinating subject.

Azhrialilu 03-15-2005 07:51 AM

have sent you my email :D... would you mind if I linked to the questionnaire at one of my sites - there are a few people there who could be interested in sharing their views too! :D

aggiefan 07-03-2005 05:21 PM

According to Wyatt Sexton (Florida State Seminoles) -- He's god. :)

kobescoresagain 07-03-2005 06:01 PM

I will send you an email of my beliefs, but I say that there is only one god. I do not know this god, what he looks like, if he is human, if he is christian or anything else. I believe he is never walked on this earth, never will. I believe he made our galaxy, solar system, universe, and whatever is farther out. I doubt that all of these things could "just happen" I think people use god as a crutch, something to believe in when times get rough. I also think the all major religions believe in the same god. they have just passed down different versions. I also think that god has been used to extort money from the weak. Such as happened in the past such as Egyptians, Catholics, and almost every other religion that has been around for a long time. So my opinion is that someone or something bigger than all of us has to exist, but what many people believe isn't necessarily right either.

Ninth Dimension 07-04-2005 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobescoresagain
I doubt that all of these things could "just happen"

You say you don't think that any of this can't just happen, that the universe we have today obviously need a creator, right?

So who created god?

I mean, god's all powerful? he can make life, create planets and stars, etc.. and people and animals and planets and fruits, etc... he's made everything - so who is the even greater being that made god? I mean, something as powerful as that has to have been made by someone/something? I mean, it can't "just happen".

Please, by all means, feel free to email in your answers, I'm still collecting them, but maybe you could go into a bit more detail as to why you believe there is a god?

kobescoresagain 07-04-2005 03:59 AM

I think god was the orgin, the beginning of the line, no one made him.

if you think baout it the other way, if god doesn't exist, then who put all these building blocks together? who made those building blocks? Why are they there at all?

Chris M 07-04-2005 12:16 PM

I am God - Enough said ;)

Satan


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