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BarHopper 01-13-2005 05:53 PM

Your Political Stance?
 
An odd thread i suppose, just thought i'd make it...Well the question is in the title.

I am a Royalist :D *Waits for the rotton eggs* I also like some Communist points, such as state schools, and ranking equality.....But i believe a monarch should rule a country and it is duty, as a British citizen [or anywhere else for that matter] to respect the monarch.

Rose 01-13-2005 06:30 PM

(regarding american politics...)
I'll bite. I'm an independant that leans slightly towards conservatism moreso than liberalism, but I'd say I'm pretty well centralist. Call me wishy-washy, but I can't associate with a particular party as I like certain things on both sides.

lasto 01-13-2005 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarHopper
But i believe a monarch should rule a country and it is duty, as a British citizen [or anywhere else for that matter] to respect the monarch.

You watching to many fairy stories m8

Politics bad idea for a subject on a board cause views change from one person to another.

Rose 01-13-2005 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lasto
You watching to many fairy stories m8

Politics bad idea for a subject on a board cause views change from one person to another.


Hopefully the members here at vbulletin.org will realize this thread is just for stating your political stance and will keep the thread from turning into a political flame-war.

:)

BarHopper 01-13-2005 08:48 PM

^ That is indeed what i thought, when posting the thread i did conclude that this forum is a mature one, that im sure can cope lasto ;] So do not fear...

Not fairy stories my friend, just learning morals and prioritising.

yoyoyoyo 01-13-2005 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose
(regarding american politics...)
I'll bite. I'm an independant that leans slightly towards conservatism moreso than liberalism, but I'd say I'm pretty well centralist. Call me wishy-washy, but I can't associate with a particular party as I like certain things on both sides.

I am the same but opposite- I can't associate myself with a particular party because I hate most things about both sides.

Rose 01-13-2005 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoyoyoyo
I am the same but opposite- I can't associate myself with a particular party because I hate most things about both sides.


*lol* That works! :D

jlaine 01-14-2005 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose
Hopefully the members here at vbulletin.org will realize this thread is just for stating your political stance and will keep the thread from turning into a political flame-war.

:)

<flame>

;)

Pretty conservative here.

lasto 01-14-2005 01:24 AM

somehow in this day and age i beleive its hard for anyoen to think they have to bow before queen and country.The dark ages are long gone and so has the kings and queens power (well most of it anyway) least we not forget when they had power they abused it badly and massacred millions in their name.
I am british yet i hold no allegiance to the Queen or in that fact England cause England is not great no more like she once was.This country is being turned over to anyone who wants it.Would i fight for my country - simple answer is NO.

Tony G 01-14-2005 01:42 AM

I would at least have a *bit* of patriotism for my country. You live in it after all, and they offer you a safe place to live. You have to think about the others, less fortunate, who live in places which are not safe. You have to be thankful that you live in a country that offers safety to you - and an army so you never have to "fight" for your country.

Australia is still under the Queen's rule, although she doesn't actually do much for the country in terms of power-tripping and decisions, she's still technically the head.

lasto 01-14-2005 01:50 AM

patriotism is fine and dandy in the movies but i have to say i just aint got any.

DrkFusion 01-14-2005 10:30 AM

Liberal

noppid 01-14-2005 10:32 AM

Patriotism, what one lacks when the goverment needs help and what one claims to have when they need help from the government. :p

mholtum 01-14-2005 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarHopper
.But i believe a monarch should rule a country and it is duty, as a British citizen [or anywhere else for that matter] to respect the monarch.

monarch = Dictator. No thanks. Other than that I will hold my tongue. I learned along time ago even the most inocent of political threads have a way of getting ugly and fast.

BarHopper 01-14-2005 11:23 AM

^ Indeed they do.

I understand, the dictatorship theory, i am told it many times.....But i love history, have always loved monarchy history, this has what has lead me to be a Royalist.....I think the current situation from my view with the Queen, is fine....But, stance, is tjhat the Queen should be formally the head, and the PM an advisor, not a decision maker.

lasto 01-14-2005 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noppid
Patriotism, what one lacks when the goverment needs help and what one claims to have when they need help from the government. :p

dont lecture me about crap like this - im held back from giving my true reply to this thread or it would of been closed a long time ago.
U wanna see Patriotism go see all the old men who fought for this country and see what this Goverment has given them in return.

Dean C 01-14-2005 02:02 PM

lasto - you were the first to mention in the beginning of this thread about it going sour. People are entitled to their opinion and noppid was in no way attacking you. Please keep it polite. Thankyou

lasto 01-14-2005 02:48 PM

im entitled to my opinon and as so gave it

thank you :)

BarHopper 01-14-2005 03:12 PM

What about your political stance Dean? ;]

Dean C 01-14-2005 03:22 PM

A few know, but I shan't cause a stir... ;)

noppid 01-14-2005 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lasto
dont lecture me about crap like this - im held back from giving my true reply to this thread or it would of been closed a long time ago.
U wanna see Patriotism go see all the old men who fought for this country and see what this Goverment has given them in return.


WOW! This is the internet, not reality, I wouldn't take any of it too seriously. That was a joke. :)

I held back too to be honest. This is not a politcal forum.

mholtum 01-14-2005 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarHopper
^ Indeed they do.

I understand, the dictatorship theory, i am told it many times.....But i love history, have always loved monarchy history, this has what has lead me to be a Royalist.....I think the current situation from my view with the Queen, is fine....But, stance, is tjhat the Queen should be formally the head, and the PM an advisor, not a decision maker.

Absolute Power curupts absolutely. How you you compair your government to that in say, Iraq? Fairly similar. I think that the leaders of countries should be elected by the people. It should not be a "birth right". I don't care who they are being born into the right family doesnt make you a good leader. Just look what is happing over there now with the Prince wearing a Nazi uniform to a public function. Yea, I want him running the country. :ermm:

BarHopper 01-14-2005 04:45 PM

Oh go on, i dares ya Dean ;]


Quote:

Originally Posted by noppid
This is not a politcal forum.

No, but this is the lounge.

Dean C 01-14-2005 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mholtum
Just look what is happing over there now with the Prince wearing a Nazi uniform to a public function.

It was a private party where a member of the media sneaked in. Hehe it's quite amusing sometimes how the media distorts stories :)

lasto 01-14-2005 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mholtum
Absolute Power curupts absolutely. How you you compair your government to that in say, Iraq? Fairly similar. I think that the leaders of countries should be elected by the people. It should not be a "birth right". I don't care who they are being born into the right family doesnt make you a good leader. Just look what is happing over there now with the Prince wearing a Nazi uniform to a public function. Yea, I want him running the country. :ermm:

well we in britian have a royal family of german desent - and a royal family that made plans at one time to leave for germany during the second world war but most of it is covered up these days.
I agree `birth right` should not get u anything - In my view EARN IT.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
It was a private party where a member of the media sneaked in. Hehe it's quite amusing sometimes how the media distorts stories :)

well tbh the royal family or charles should now better than to wear a nazi uniform.They are supposed to be the head of state so they know they always under scunity so what is so funnie about having a fancy dress and going as a nazi officer ? - Press aint disdorted anything here - now who in the royal family had a nazi ss officer as a father ??

mholtum 01-14-2005 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
It was a private party where a member of the media sneaked in. Hehe it's quite amusing sometimes how the media distorts stories :)

Nothing is private when you are a the future leader of a country. Please, don't go there.

Even if it was private, you think this behavior is ok? That would be like me dressing up as the Grand Dragon of the KKK and going to a party.

It is NOT funny. If you think it is, then you deserve him as your future leader.

Rose 01-14-2005 05:48 PM

Let's remember this thread isn't about Prince Harry - save that for another. This thread is to identify members' personal political stance.

mholtum 01-14-2005 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose
Let's remember this thread isn't about Prince Harry - save that for another. This thread is to identify members' personal political stance.

That was just an example of why I couldnt even fathom the idea of a monach, ie Leader by birthright.. Sorry.

Dean C 01-14-2005 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mholtum
Nothing is private when you are a the future leader of a country. Please, don't go there.

Even if it was private, you think this behavior is ok? That would be like me dressing up as the Grand Dragon of the KKK and going to a party.

It is NOT funny. If you think it is, then you deserve him as your future leader.

Where did I say it was funny? In that comment I expressed no personal view regarding the matter. I was pointing out how the media distorts what really happened as amusing.

lasto 01-15-2005 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
Where did I say it was funny? In that comment I expressed no personal view regarding the matter. I was pointing out how the media distorts what really happened as amusing.

yeah where did he say it was - he only stated about the media going over board which i agree they do - but as i said above the royals are in the public eye at all times and as such should be sensitive to matters like that.

mholtum 01-15-2005 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
:)

I assumed. My bad.

BarHopper 01-15-2005 06:05 AM

True....But its something that cannot be helped....I would understand if there was a big crazy if anyone went to a party dressed up as a wave. But i hate to say it, but even though Nazism was terrible, maybe we should try and "make a joke out of it" more, to show what T"ats they were.

Brad 01-15-2005 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarHopper
True....But its something that cannot be helped....I would understand if there was a big crazy if anyone went to a party dressed up as a wave. But i hate to say it, but even though Nazism was terrible, maybe we should try and "make a joke out of it" more, to show what T"ats they were.

I have no stance, well maybe I do...

I think we should get rid of goverment all togther and advance to a world where each human helps anthor. Get rid of the concept of money and go back to trading for goods with other goods or work (ill trade you a printer in turn for fixing my pc for example :p). I've heard people say how impossible it would be to run our complex world without goverment or money but its possible, I just think people are'nt ready to accept a world without big brother yet, and big brother surely won't give up his power ;)

BarHopper 01-15-2005 09:15 PM

Hmmm....I dont think that would work somehow....I dont know the reasons fo4r why it wouldnt. Jsut one of those things.

mikehawk 01-20-2005 02:44 AM

A little plug since we're talking politics:

My boards: http://www.RealOpinion.com

tgillespie 01-20-2005 03:21 AM

I would have to consider myself a little more on the conservative side. I tend to agree with the ideas of less funding, less government, and more personal responsibility.

TruthElixirX 01-20-2005 10:15 PM

I'm a pretty exreme Conservative. I live in Southern Oklahoma. I won't go into my extremist views. :)


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