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Gutspiller 11-04-2004 06:23 PM

Which server control panel is better?
 
Cpanel or Plesk?

and maybe a few reasons why you think one is better than the other. I am trying to decide, but can't find much on the difference between the two, even at their websites. Can anybody help me out?

Zachery 11-04-2004 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gutspiller
Cpanel or Plesk?

and maybe a few reasons why you think one is better than the other. I am trying to decide, but can't find much on the difference between the two, even at their websites. Can anybody help me out?

Ive seen nothing but problems with plesk systems they contain outdated software. Personaly I've used cpanel both from a customer and host standpoint and i prefer it. I've yet to use plesk from the admincp side but have no want to do so at this time

WhSox21 11-04-2004 07:01 PM

CPanel seems like the best choice in my book having using both. Its been a while since I've used plesk though!

HiDeo 11-04-2004 07:14 PM

I'll say CPanel

Dean C 11-04-2004 07:16 PM

Never used plesk so out of those two i'd say cPanel. Mind you I'm using Ensim now and I wouldn't go back :)

Rick Sample 11-04-2004 07:34 PM

Cpanel all the way, I've used others and nothing can compare the the ease of Cpanel.

Andreas 11-04-2004 08:28 PM

I haven't seen Plesk in action yet - but cPanel.
Currently I am using Confixx which seems to be quite good in my opinion.

You might also want to take a look into Visas or PD-Admin.

paulyy 11-05-2004 01:02 AM

cPanel is very user friendly and definately a choice for people new to creating websites. In my personal opinion Plesk.

Guest190829 11-05-2004 01:55 AM

I think CPanel is the best because it's very straight forward for people new to the web.

Blam Forumz 11-05-2004 04:11 AM

cPanel all the way

Gutspiller 11-05-2004 05:06 AM

Thanks for all the responses, I guess I will be going with Cpanel. :)

Props for all the responses.

James T Brock 11-05-2004 05:25 AM

Cpanel - by far. Not only is it easier to use, but it usually has more functions.

Oblivion Knight 11-05-2004 07:54 AM

I've used Ensim and cPanel, and I've found cPanel to be the best out of those two..

cPanel is easily the more accessable of the two.

freeshares1 11-05-2004 08:05 AM

directadmin - Especially with the new look :)

Dean C 11-05-2004 09:31 AM

My host insists on using Ensim btw, because he says cPanel is extremely insecure.

Brad 11-05-2004 10:23 AM

All control panel's can be insecure, infact I recomend learning how to manage your sites/box without it. However to people new to the web or on shared hosting that generally comes with a control panel I recomend cpanel, just make sure you keep it up to date.

AlexanderT 11-05-2004 01:40 PM

I would go for H-Sphere which allows true multi-domain hosting.

Zachery 11-05-2004 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexanderT
I would go for H-Sphere which allows true multi-domain hosting.

h-shpere from what i understand is also the msot advanced


and remember, hosting control panels are just that, they are not security tools.

Getox 11-05-2004 04:35 PM

CPanel is better,
Why?
1. You the upgrade the stuff in it (PHP, Perl, MySQL, etc)
2. Faster than Plesk(trust me iv used plesk and its slow)
3. Just cos i said so.

Guest190829 11-05-2004 05:38 PM

I'm new to web building and CPanel helped me so much, now i'm on a path to a great site!

Rose 11-05-2004 05:46 PM

I've only used cPanel, sooo that gets my vote by default.

Erwin 11-05-2004 10:45 PM

cPanel is the way to go. I've used them all, and by far cPanel is best. At least for me. ;) Obviously, having no cPanel is ideal as that frees up the most memory and space, but if you have to have one, get cPanel.

I don't even use the cPanel control panel much - I just like their extra scripts and the way they update server software easily. It also comes with its own service monitoring scripts, and installations scripts for most things. It also has remote MySQL built-in, which is very easy to setup. You can also do DNS clustering easily.

The downside of cPanel is that it's over-supply of services. I typically shut down 90% of all processes and services it provides as I don't need them.

As for security, that's only if you don't update to the latest secure versions. As updates are automated anyway, that should not be a problem.

h75 11-06-2004 02:16 AM

No. For me it is KeyHelp 2.0 Revision: 1.153 :D

www.keyweb.de

Demo: http://62.141.63.99/index.cgi
Username: gast
Passwort: gast

I use it since September 2003 ;)

sabret00the 11-06-2004 10:07 PM

used ensim and cpanel, definately cpanel

Chris M 11-06-2004 10:42 PM

I've used Ensim and CPanel - CPanel is better, IMO, for speed and actual ease of use, but honestly, I don't mind Ensim...

Satan

DrkFusion 11-06-2004 10:44 PM

Ensim Pro is nice
CPanel is nice as well, good for beginners.
I've been working with HELM core and H-Sphere core at the NOC which I work part-time at.

Andrew 11-07-2004 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrkFusion
Ensim Pro is nice
CPanel is nice as well, good for beginners.
I've been working with HELM core and H-Sphere core at the NOC which I work part-time at.

I've used cPanel and Ensim but I actually like both of them. cPanel is a little bit easier and faster to use but both are good tools.

paulyy 11-08-2004 08:00 AM

Quote:

Not only is it easier to use, but it usually has more functions.
cPanel is for lazy people who can't be bothered looking up or reading documentation on how to do things themselves ;)

Zachery 11-08-2004 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyy
cPanel is for lazy people who can't be bothered looking up or reading documentation on how to do things themselves ;)

Not for lazy people at all, its for busy people, if i had a line of servers i wouldnt want to go and run a ton of updates on serveral servers, recompiling apache php mysql every time there is an update on every box could become very time consuming, instead i can just click a few buttons or run a script in ssh and bam, its all done for me.

paulyy 11-08-2004 03:05 PM

Quote:

Not for lazy people at all, its for busy people
True, but I was actually referring to the user end with all the Fantastico and htaccess password directory functions :)

Erwin 11-09-2004 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
Not for lazy people at all, its for busy people, if i had a line of servers i wouldnt want to go and run a ton of updates on serveral servers, recompiling apache php mysql every time there is an update on every box could become very time consuming, instead i can just click a few buttons or run a script in ssh and bam, its all done for me.

I admit it, I AM LAZY. :) I have quite a few servers running my forums and I like the cPanel scripts. I don't use Fantastico, and nobody should be using .htaccess - you should disable it and use mod_rewrite in httpd.conf instead.

Natch 11-09-2004 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erwin
...and nobody should be using .htaccess - you should disable it and use mod_rewrite in httpd.conf instead.

re: not using .htaccess: Why do you say that, Doc?

AlexanderT 11-09-2004 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erwin
nobody should be using .htaccess - you should disable it and use mod_rewrite in httpd.conf instead.

This is not making sense. First, why should nobody be using .htaccess?

Second, how does mod_rewrite be an alternative to .htaccess? mod_rewrite is a module that uses a rule-based rewriting engine to rewrite requested URLs on the fly. .htaccess USES mod_rewrite when it comes to parsing rewrite rules within .htaccess. But .htaccess is more; it allows you to set access rules in a per-directory context. How would you do that with mod_rewrite?

Zachery 11-09-2004 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyy
True, but I was actually referring to the user end with all the Fantastico and htaccess password directory functions :)

Oh I don't use fantastico :/ its the devil

Dean C 11-09-2004 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexanderT
This is not making sense. First, why should nobody be using .htaccess?

Second, how does mod_rewrite be an alternative to .htaccess? mod_rewrite is a module that uses a rule-based rewriting engine to rewrite requested URLs on the fly. .htaccess USES mod_rewrite when it comes to parsing rewrite rules within .htaccess. But .htaccess is more; it allows you to set access rules in a per-directory context. How would you do that with mod_rewrite?

It's far quicker server-side to have all your rules within the httpd.conf file :)

Erwin 11-09-2004 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
It's far quicker server-side to have all your rules within the httpd.conf file :)

Exactly.

You remove the apache's need to check EVERY single directory for .htaccess when it can all be done in httpd.conf.

Erwin 11-09-2004 10:27 PM

Add this to httpd.conf to stop lookup for .htaccess:

AllowOverride None
Options None

Then, add your .htaccess rules into httpd.conf itself - it's basically similar to what you would put in .htaccess.

Erwin 11-09-2004 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexanderT
This is not making sense. First, why should nobody be using .htaccess?

Second, how does mod_rewrite be an alternative to .htaccess? mod_rewrite is a module that uses a rule-based rewriting engine to rewrite requested URLs on the fly. .htaccess USES mod_rewrite when it comes to parsing rewrite rules within .htaccess. But .htaccess is more; it allows you to set access rules in a per-directory context. How would you do that with mod_rewrite?

You can specify each directory in httpd.conf with respect to rules. Trust me, it will reduce your server load if you have heavy web access. :) In any case, feel free to research this yourself - don't take my word for it.

Natch 11-10-2004 02:06 AM

Thanks for this: I will have to look into the research on the http.conf and how best to share access to this between two server admins !! maybe use a CVS system to make modifications?


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