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dndog 09-30-2004 11:45 PM

vB.org + vBulletintemplates.com
 
I really feel that vBulletintemplates.com should be merged in to vB.org. The admins at vBtemplates.com work very hard to make the community survive, and it still struggles. Lets face it, when given a choice, most people would rather hang out on vB.org.

I understand why the communities are seperate. In a utopian world, the split between the websites would function excellently, and people would go back and forth between website installing hacks and templates.

In reality, most people hang out at vB.org and vBtemplates.com is a ghost town. :ermm:

The choice seems clear: Why not merge the communities together and give vB.org a special "template" section, which incorporates vBtemplates.com template mods.

Once again, I am grateful to both communities and have installed many hacks from both sites. I feel that vBtemplates.com has many incredible template mods that would be used more if they were on vB.org. I thank all the admins on both sites for their hard work and deciation. :nervous:

filburt1 10-01-2004 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dndog
I really feel that vBulletintemplates.com should be merged in to vB.org. The admins at vBtemplates.com work very hard to make the community survive, and it still struggles. Lets face it, when given a choice, most people would rather hang out on vB.org.

I understand why the communities are seperate. In a utopian world, the split between the websites would function excellently, and people would go back and forth between website installing hacks and templates.

In reality, most people hang out at vB.org and vBtemplates.com is a ghost town. :ermm:

The choice seems clear: Why not merge the communities together and give vB.org a special "template" section, which incorporates vBtemplates.com template mods.

Once again, I am grateful to both communities and have installed many hacks from both sites. I feel that vBtemplates.com has many incredible template mods that would be used more if they were on vB.org. I thank all the admins on both sites for their hard work and deciation. :nervous:

This very matter is being discussed at this time by all three sites' teams.

Logikos 10-01-2004 02:03 AM

The fun part would be merging the users/pass, and post.

filburt1 10-01-2004 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live Wire
The fun part would be merging the users/pass, and post.

It's already supported by the official Jelsoft importing scripts. The internal discussion is more administrative than technical at this point.

Logician 10-01-2004 09:18 AM

Hold on for this. This may be more close than you ever imagined. ;)

Natch 10-01-2004 11:14 AM

*whew* Thank G*d ;)

Xenon 10-01-2004 12:28 PM

You'll get an official announcement on that topic soon, as filbi already said we're currently have the administrating chats.

And of course a bit of technical questions as well (we don't have plain vb's here)
Stay tuned, for more info :)

KW802 10-01-2004 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logician
Hold on for this. This may be more close than you ever imagined. ;)

Very cool.

dndog 10-01-2004 04:18 PM

Great minds think alike! (me and jelsoft). ;)

cinq 10-01-2004 11:30 PM

Such merging could only strengthen the vb community as a whole and further spur vb to greater heights.
Imo at least lol

Way to go guys :)

Logikos 10-01-2004 11:57 PM

I think the same, i can't remember the last time i visted vbt.

Brad 10-02-2004 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cinq
Such merging could only strengthen the vb community as a whole and further spur vb to greater heights.
Imo at least lol

Way to go guys :)

Hence the reason it was proposed :)

Princeton 10-02-2004 12:09 AM

excellent! impatiently awaiting for the outcome :up:

Talisman 10-02-2004 12:16 AM

That is wonderful news. :banana: Those template mods are just as important to us as the php code hacks for the benefit they serve in our forums. Consolidating all these ideas will strengthen the whole community.

Nice idea. Cheers!

Dan 10-02-2004 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad.loo
Hence the reason it was proposed :)

I vistied vBt just a few minutes ago and have been frequenting it more often recently :P

Xenon 10-02-2004 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dndog
Great minds think alike! (me and jelsoft). ;)

Jelsoft's not a single mind ^^

We are the vBorg, resitance is futile, but Jelsoft isn't :p

M1th 10-02-2004 02:15 PM

Great idea guys!

AWS 10-02-2004 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M1th
Great idea guys!

Best news I've heard in a while.
Kudos for finally getting this done.

dndog 10-04-2004 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenon
Jelsoft's not a single mind ^^

We are the vBorg, resitance is futile, but Jelsoft isn't :p

Yeah Yeah. :p

Anyway, this is awesome news.

Will vBT's default theme be released for free if the sites are merged? (crosses fingers). :rolleyes:

Brad 10-04-2004 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dndog
Yeah Yeah. :p

Anyway, this is awesome news.

Will vBT's default theme be released for free if the sites are merged? (crosses fingers). :rolleyes:

No..

AnhTuanCool 10-04-2004 04:43 AM

I think we shouldn't !

memobug 10-04-2004 05:04 AM

I really like it the way it is - a different focus, leadership and mindset. I have been spending more and more time there on vbT recently.

What's the difference between merging and opening up a couple "Templates" boards on vB.org?

Regards,

Matt

Logikos 10-04-2004 05:22 AM

My $0.02 is that i think it will be better for both communities, they have over 20k members and maybe 4-5 members on at a time. I think it will have much needed attention if it was to be merged into vb.org.

buro9 10-04-2004 08:25 AM

I so hope this happens.

I've argued it a few times before, but the distributed sites do little to strengthen the support and extensibility of vBulletin as a product. It's simply too hard for newbies to know where they should go for what type of support or help, and as hacks can be split down templates and code (template conditionals vs PHP), it is very hard for them to understand where to find what they're looking for.

All newbies seek are answers, and it would benefit all of us to have them find them as swiftly as possible... as this will reduce the amount of effort hackwriters have to give, as well as increase the feeling amongst newbies that the support network that the community offers is responsive and comprehensive.

Go for it :)

Toneboy 10-04-2004 10:56 AM

Pity it is so quiet over there, as there is plenty of useful stuff there. I think the problem is that people come and get what they want, then leave and don't come back. Stuff there tends to be stuff which is "final", you don't get the "back and forth" that you get from hacks which are evolving and always getting feedback.

rebelsrock06 10-04-2004 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toneboy
Pity it is so quiet over there, as there is plenty of useful stuff there. I think the problem is that people come and get what they want, then leave and don't come back. Stuff there tends to be stuff which is "final", you don't get the "back and forth" that you get from hacks which are evolving and always getting feedback.

as much as i like them seperate i think the best thing would be for them to be merged

MrNase 10-04-2004 05:13 PM

I'll warmly welcome a fusion.. vBT.com was never a place i'd like to stay for very long. I posted some template mods there but I never liked the atmosphere over there nor I liked the style. ;)
I really think the merge will be a great plus to the community and that's, in my eyes, the last chance for vBt.com to become more successful.

Dan 10-04-2004 05:42 PM

Well all I want is the vBT style also here if the merge happens :) [and my accounts merged as well]

rebelsrock06 10-04-2004 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan
Well all I want is the vBT style also here if the merge happens :) [and my accounts merged as well]

thats one thing that i just thought of

Heres the Senario

Lets say there is

User1 and User2 .

User1 registers here on Vbulletin.org Forums with sn User1 but doesnt register on Vbulletintemplates.com.

User2 registers on Vbulletintemplates.com with the sn User1.

If the two sites were to merge there would be a chaotic mess of the usernames if someone has taken that name on a different site. I dont think that there are to many of these im just saying that a lot of people use very repeatable names like Dan or Bob or something like that.

Did that make sense

SaN-DeeP 10-04-2004 07:52 PM

I will really be happy to see vbulletintemplates.com alongwith vb.org, as i never visit vbt.com ;) (reason, site is very heavy on grafix takes hell lotsa time for a dialup user to load)
Quote:

If the two sites were to merge there would be a chaotic mess of the usernames if someone has taken that name on a different site. I dont think that there are to many of these im just saying that a lot of people use very repeatable names like Dan or Bob or something like that.
something has to be done for similar usernames, though i dont assume wont be a big problem, coz user a (named bob with x email address) and user b (named bob with y email address), expect 1 of them not to be a license holder or assuming both are not license holders.
1. We can take vb.org username as BASE (priority) and delete the users with different usernames but similar email id..

Will post more logic, if we really outta go ahead ;)

rebelsrock06 10-04-2004 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaN-DeeP
I will really be happy to see vbulletintemplates.com alongwith vb.org, as i never visit vbt.com ;) (reason, site is very heavy on grafix takes hell lotsa time for a dialup user to load)

something has to be done for similar usernames, though i dont assume wont be a big problem, coz user a (named bob with x email address) and user b (named bob with y email address), expect 1 of them not to be a license holder or assuming both are not license holders.
1. We can take vb.org username as BASE (priority) and delete the users with different usernames but similar email id..

Will post more logic, if we really outta go ahead ;)

Well i hope they merge

mholtum 10-04-2004 09:13 PM

I would say that the merger would be if nothing else convienient. But, I do spend equal time at both sites.. It is becoming more of an addiction than a hobby for me.. This scares me...

Brad 10-05-2004 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan
Well all I want is the vBT style also here if the merge happens :) [and my accounts merged as well]

I don't want to say much at the risk of something changing because none of this is really set in stone yet.

vBt's style is planned to make an apperance here sometime after the merge, but not right off.

And the acounts will be merged aswell, we don't want anyone losing alot of posts after the merge because acounts did'nt get associated correctly. We won't be associating them by usernames because of the obvious problems that could arise, I belive someone already brought up a number of issues with that method so I won't take the time to re-type them.

Anyway, there will be an offical annoucment soon about the merge, so stay tuned for that, it should answer all questions that might arise :)

Logikos 10-05-2004 06:39 AM

It will prolly be the same as they did when vb.com merged with vb.org. Using the emails i suppose.

buro9 10-05-2004 07:27 AM

How is this done btw?

I would love to merge together some archived boards I have... yet most usernames will be duplicated and not all will be linked together by email.

Is there a import and merge script somewhere? I'd love to test such a thing :D

Brad 10-05-2004 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buro9
How is this done btw?

I would love to merge together some archived boards I have... yet most usernames will be duplicated and not all will be linked together by email.

Is there a import and merge script somewhere? I'd love to test such a thing :D

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showp...8&postcount=13

buro9 10-05-2004 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad.loo

Fantastic.

Though I am worried about this:
Quote:

vB3 (3.0.x -> vB 3.0.1)
All my boards are 3.0.3... downgrading during import?

Brad 10-05-2004 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buro9
Fantastic.

Though I am worried about this:


All my boards are 3.0.3... downgrading during import?

It should work with 3.0.3, you can try looking around the impex forum and seeing if there are any issues with 3.0.3. You can always do a test import with back-ups of your forums databases, which I highly recomend you do before any kind of import anyway.

Johnny 10-11-2004 02:13 AM

when will the vb.org and vbt merge happen, im excited to help out more peope on template modifications, since i rarely visit vbt

Dan 10-11-2004 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny
when will the vb.org and vbt merge happen, im excited to help out more peope on template modifications, since i rarely visit vbt

When it is decided. :D


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