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krohnathlonman

09-26-2004 10:00 PM

Spider Friendly URL hack

I've started using better URLs for the search engines and I'm looking for some advice on what templates to modify. I also don't have the multi page part working right currently so I could use some help on that.

I haven't figured out the part to go to specific posts quite yet but I thought I'd share what I have so far.

URLs for the threads now look like this:
http://www.iamnotageek.com/t-76948.html

Insert this into your .htaccess file in your forum base directory.

Code:

  RewriteEngine on

  RewriteRule ^t-([0-9]+) showthread.php?t=$1 [L]

Now test it by using a URL like domain.com/forum/t-THREADID.html

If that shows the thread properly THEN go into your admincp and use the template search function. Do a search for showthread.php and start editing those templates to send people to these new URLs. Don't modify things like the next page links.

This could potentially raise CPU usage quite a bit but my site pulls a decent amount of people per day and I'm not noticing much of a spike in CPU usage.

This can also be done for forums. I've done it here http://iamnotageek.com/f-46.html

If I can get the next page system working right I'll get the full instructions together.

Polo	09-27-2004 10:01 PM

I think you need to elaborate a little bit more on what to do krohnathlonman users who do not know much about coding and stuff probably will not know what to modify ... I'm currently using a custom Mod-Rewrite in our forums, so far so good, you can always take a look at it and see what I'm talking about. However, just like you I havent been able to rewrite the Next-Previous pages...

if you find anything, I will sure implement it,

regards,

krohnathlonman

09-27-2004 10:24 PM

Really about all that can be done is is the admincp use the search for templates and search for showthread.php and instead of the showthread.php?t=VARIABLE

insert t-VARIABLE.html

If I can figure out the multi page I'll get together some very specific docs for this. I'm working in the forums like this currently and I now have redirects in place for the old archive pages.

Polo	09-27-2004 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krohnathlonman

I'm working in the forums like this currently and I now have redirects in place for the old archive pages.

me too :)

joeychgo

09-28-2004 03:59 AM

Huh??????????

I totally have no clue what your saying I should do, but im interested in the concept...........

djohn

09-28-2004 07:23 AM

i'd like to see my forum links to look instead of http://www.forum.com/forums/showthread.php?&threadid=123, like this: http://www.forum.com/forums/thread/123

i think it looks much nicer. is that possible to make?

Polo	09-28-2004 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeychgo

Huh??????????

I totally have no clue what your saying I should do, but im interested in the concept...........

I told you krohnathlonman, you need to explain and give some more details on how to inmplement this on a website... i'm sure many will appreciate it...

Polo	09-28-2004 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djohn

i'd like to see my forum links to look instead of http://www.forum.com/forums/showthre...?&threadid=123, like this: http://www.forum.com/forums/thread/123

i think it looks much nicer. is that possible to make?

Yeah, that is what this mod does..

colicab-d

09-28-2004 04:47 PM

Hmmm so how do we use this one then? Tis all a little confusing

Polo	09-28-2004 05:05 PM

I think you got to ask krohnathlonman,

He is the one that released this mod and i'm sure he will be able to help you better...

djohn

09-28-2004 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polo

Yeah, that is what this mod does..

that's not what i asked

krohnathlonman

09-29-2004 01:20 AM

I've updated the first post with quite a bit more information.

Djohn it will NOT be creating URLS like that. It will be creating MUCH better URLs

Logikos

09-29-2004 02:58 AM

Very nice, i can't wait till you figure out how to get all the links a .HTML file!! :)

krohnathlonman

09-29-2004 03:21 AM

I'm working on it :) I'm having trouble finding where those breadcrumb links are created. I've posted a thread asking for help on this. I'm sure I'm only missing something small to make the multi page work right. I've just done the modifications to newthread and newreply so that they get sent to the right URLs now. I'm slowly tracking things down to eliminate all those nasty URLs.

Search engines are where I get most of my traffic from so everything I can possibly do to improve them I'm going after! I've been capturing quite a few big search phrases the past few months and I've found one that is seriously bringing in nearly 1k ppl/day and about 60 terms that bring in more than 1k ppl this month! I need to pick up the pace for winter when things hit their prime.

My .htaccess is now looking like this:

Code:

RewriteEngine on

RewriteRule ^t-([0-9]+)?-([0-9]+) showthread.php?t=$1&page=$2 [L]

RewriteRule ^t-([0-9]+) showthread.php?t=$1 [L]

RewriteRule ^f-([0-9]+) forumdisplay.php?f=$1 [L]

RewriteRule ^p-([0-9]+) showthread.php?p=$1 [L]

the first t- is my attempt at multi page support.

Logikos

09-29-2004 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krohnathlonman

Code:

RewriteEngine on

RewriteRule ^t-([0-9]+)?(-[0-9]+) showthread.php?t=$1&page=$2 [L]

RewriteRule ^t-([0-9]+) showthread.php?t=$1 [L]

RewriteRule ^f-([0-9]+) forumdisplay.php?f=$1 [L]

RewriteRule ^p-([0-9]+) showthread.php?p=$1 [L]

the first t- is my attempt at multi page support.

Very kool, i can't wait till you figure the rest out.

krohnathlonman

09-29-2004 03:39 AM

I edited my post above to include my NOW working multi page support! Here it is a second time just in case you're a lil slow....

Code:

RewriteRule ^t-([0-9]+)?-([0-9]+) showthread.php?t=$1&page=$2 [L]

If you know the templates you can now find the multi page references and get them working properly!

I used dreamweaver to search the entire vbulletin directory for the code $url which is used for redirects in things like the newthread and newpost. I modifed them slightly so now all redirects are working properly.

Yes this is running notes as I figure things out... I'm looking for help/suggestions. You will have to know a little bit about the templates and do a bit of thinking but everything you need to know to do this hack is posted in this thread. Step by Step instructions will be put together when I get things finalized.

Zachery

09-29-2004 03:45 AM

I think Xenon has released somthing to this effect, and Dani released a very good tutorial about this, however ive never had issues with google properly spidering my pages. so i dont see how this makes vBulletin any more SE freindly then nit already is.

krohnathlonman

09-29-2004 04:13 AM

Xenon released an archive.... This is quite different since its bringing addresses like that to the actual forum. I'm looking for Dani's Tutorial right now.... Can ya link me? not finding in the search on vb.com or .org

Friendlier URLs like this have shown to get better positioning in searches.
One of the key things with google is how many sites are linking to a URL.... Take the URL position benefit THEN tack on people linking to these URLs instead of the showthread.php?t=XXXXX type URLs and I BET you will see a benefit from this. This is not a "quick" fix by any means but eventually over time you will see the benefit.

The greatest example of a site getting killer search positioning primarily due to a mod like this is computercops

krohnathlonman

09-29-2004 04:35 AM

in functions_forumdisplay.php

Code:

                        $totalpages = ceil($thread['totalposts'] / $pperpage);

//        orignal line                $address = "showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]t=$thread[threadid]";



                        $address = "t-$thread[threadid]";

                        $address2 = "$thread[highlight]";

                        $curpage = 0;

Then in the template threadbit_pagelink

Code:

<a href="$address-$curpage$address2.html">$curpage</a>

Next thing I have to track down is that top right navbar and correct those links.

krohnathlonman

09-29-2004 05:03 AM

wow this is proving to be alot of work LOL for the top right links: showthread.php

Code:

        $DB_site->free_result($posts);

        unset($post);



        DEVDEBUG("First Post: $FIRSTPOSTID; Last Post: $LASTPOSTID");



//Line 961

        $pagenav = construct_page_nav($totalposts, "t-$threadid", "");



        if ($thread['lastpost'] > $bbuserinfo['lastvisit'])

        {

Then there's a couple mods in template pagenav this is what I did for the first page:
<if condition="$show['first']"><td class="alt1"><a class="smallfont" href="$address-1.html" title="$vbphrase[first_page] -

Do basically the same for last page and the next/previous links.
Template pagenav_pagelink has all the middle pages

This is it for tonight.... I'm done tinkering with this.... The breadcrumb is really the main thing I have left to do on my forum. Then hopefully somebody will help me with the step by step instructions.

Logikos

09-29-2004 07:09 AM

Maybe you should just MOD_Rewrite like dbforums.com. -shurgs-

msimonds

09-29-2004 12:27 PM

here is the link to Dani's mod_rewrite. I use it on my forums and it works perfectly

http://www.daniweb.com/techtalkforums/thread9379.html

58sniper

09-29-2004 12:44 PM

mod_rewrite is how we pulled it off at http://www.gurusnetwork.com/discussion/

Keep in mind that you'll be touching a LOT of templates to complete it.

krohnathlonman

09-29-2004 03:31 PM

This is using mod_rewrite guys..... Dani's tutorial has some good ideas, but I had already achieved everything I was trying to do before I saw it.....

I went about doing basically the same thing in a different way... I ended up hacking up more PHP files.

Logikos

09-30-2004 10:39 PM

If you can Figure out how to make links the forumtitles, then it would be much more usefull to spider.

Instead of:
www.mysite.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=1

it could be :
www.mysite.com/forum/f-$forum[title].html
www.mysite.com/forum/f-site-announcements.html And replace spaces with a dash (-) an force all lowercase letter. The that will make vb3 true spider friendly!

Polo	10-01-2004 02:50 PM

looking good ;)

msimonds

10-01-2004 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live Wire

Danni's mod_rewrite already does this, there are two versions in her post!

It is easy to put in place and remove if so needed

Logikos

10-01-2004 06:33 PM

Without having to edit the file everytime you need to add/delete a new forum.

msimonds

10-01-2004 06:38 PM

yes you can do this! If you want help? Contact me on one of my IM's

msimonds

10-01-2004 06:42 PM

I did my own forum and three others

check out this one that I did it to! http://www.sectalk.com/boards, it has many forums

* this is not my site!

krohnathlonman

10-01-2004 08:54 PM

using the names in the URL is simple... Basically have the rewrite completely ignore the text after the f-28 then you can have f-28-Iamthekingof_myownworld.html if you want and all that it cares to parse is the f-28

Logikos

10-01-2004 10:48 PM

Well it will spider much better if the forum names where in the URL.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ro&btnG=Search

How could i do this without always havin to hack the .htacess file every time.

msimonds

10-01-2004 10:53 PM

http://www.sportsrant.com/forums/f28...im-angels.html
http://www.sportsrant.com/forums/f29...e-orioles.html
http://www.sportsrant.com/forums/f31...h-pirates.html

These are examples from my forum, using the mod from Dani's tutorial with a few corrections.

This is the only content that is in my .htaccess file:

Quote:

RewriteEngine on
Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteRule ^thread([0-9]+).html$ showthread.php?t=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^lastpostinthread([0-9]+).html$ showthread.php?goto=lastpost&t=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^newpostinthread([0-9]+).html$ showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^forum([0-9]+).html$ forumdisplay.php?f=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^f([0-9]+)-(.*).html$ forumdisplay.php?forumid=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^post([0-9]+).html$ showthread.php?p=$1 [L]

I dont have to add a new line everytime I add a forum, the changes in Dani's mod already does that, with some help of another poster of there at her forums named Ted. I am willing to help anyone that needs it, just IM or PM me

It is really easy to put in place

Is this what you were asking, so you dont have to change the htaccess everytime you add or delete a forum

krohnathlonman

10-02-2004 06:01 AM

its this line here that does it
RewriteRule ^f([0-9]+)-(.*).html$ forumdisplay.php?forumid=$1 [L]
the * means don't do any form of parsing of that :)

Logikos

10-02-2004 06:52 AM

Thanks, i got it to work. Now im making it so threads are in the html. Like http://mysite.com/t-71.Spider-Friendly-URL-hack.html. and having it cut it out with long URLS.

h75	10-17-2004 05:58 AM

what i have to do im Templates??

Template forumhome_lastpostby

Code:

<a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]goto=newpost&amp;t=$lastpostinfo[lastthreadid]" title="<phrase 1="$lastpostinfo[lastthread]">$vbphrase[go_first_unread_in_thread_x]</phrase>"><strong>$lastpostinfo[trimthread]</strong></a>



<a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]goto=lastpost&amp;t=$lastpostinfo[lastthreadid]"><img class="inlineimg" src="$stylevar[imgdir_button]/lastpost.gif" alt="$vbphrase[go_to_last_post]" border="0" /></a>

What exactly do I have to change? Because the Sessionid is also important! :rolleyes:

Ruffneck

01-20-2005 10:29 PM

Hi all, i´ve like this hack.

A little question, i´ve replace the link on a forumhome last topics template:

OLD WAS
<a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]threadid=$thread[threadid]" title="$thread[preview]">$thread[title]</a>
$vbphrase[last_post]: $thread[date]

NEW CODE

<a href="t-$thread[threadid]-$thread[title].html" title="$thread[preview]">$thread[title]</a>
$vbphrase[last_post]: $thread[date]

Problem, the thread title was:
Willkommen, gabby
He makes: t-9020-Willkommen,%20gabby!.html

I don´t like ",%" on the url

Psycho Beat Project would be:
t-9019-Psycho%20Beat%20Project.html

I want replace signs like "" "," "." or "/20" with a "-" sign.

Example t-9019-Psycho-Beat-Project.html or much better
Psycho-Beat-Project.html

Update: I´ve created a $ttitle with replace string the signs like "!"...

I think it´s not the best way, because i must replace also $lastthread strings like "!" on the forumhome...

Sun Boy

03-30-2005 11:36 AM

this is one of the most best hack i ever seen

i will start using it right now and i hope we could do the rest also so owre site's will be all from a to z HTML pages

i have a website that i made is spider friendly
it's 4images
see this
http://www.racing4e.com/index.html

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