Warning: Do NOT hire insanctus!
 

Add me to the ever-growing list of victims that Insanctus has ripped off.

Others include allandk: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=68436

and Leppard: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=68789

I paid full amount of $70 because it was supposed to be a quick job and I didn't want to do a second transaction.

The payment was made on Aug 8th and Insanctus confirmed he had received the payment:

"Sweet, it came thru...... The code should be ready tonight (had a server issue in a move)"

That was the last I heard from him despite a PM to him which hasn't been acknowledged. Can't even contact by Yahoo IM.

Has he been banned from this website, yet?

Is there any trustworthy coders on this site who'd like to do my request and restore my faith in the coders on this site?

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=68018

Always need to check a coder's credentials before just paying money ... ALWAYS!

Indeed, exchange contracts. Then if the programmer fails to deliver you have some security in getting your desposit back.-

A written contract isn't necessary, although would help. If you have proof of agreement, that is enough. You should burn him :angry:

After seeing this and a few other threads regarding coder's credentials I have a thought. Will the admins of this site let us coders post a thread in a forum labeled "Services For Hire". This may help as people can make comments towards their experience with us coders and should deter anyone looking to rip others off.....

i do have plans on launching a site kind of like ebay but for coding :)

There already is one ^^ :) www.RentACoder.com

Hmmm the only thing I know of Insanctus is that he has almost abandoned several customers who bought his gallery system including me. The fabled RC4 which is meant to have been released about 5 times now has never happened and his supprt is awful. Ive posted several suggestions and a bug or two on his ite but never heard anything back.

Its weird as at one point he was releasing almost nightly builds of the software and now hes just disapeared, and fair enuff if hes off doing something but theres that fear in some of us after the whole "corey" thing

that site doesnt look very professional;)

You'd be surprised. It's used by thousands of freelancers every day. Don't let looks deceive you ;)

Cool idea. :)

I wanted to warn everyone about insanctus. He accepted payment to do some upgrades for me then never replied, did the work nor returned my money.

I contacted Pay Pal and they said they would not refund my money. Here is the letter from Pay Pal regarding my complaint:

"Case ID: PP-046-972-077
Transaction Date: Aug. 27, 2004
Transaction Amount: -$35.00 USD
Seller's Email: admin@sanguin.net
Seller's Name: Robert Wiley

Unfortunately, PayPal was not able to resolve this dispute because the item purchased was virtual or intangible. result, we have not taken any
action against either account at this time. However, this complaint has
been noted in the seller's record for future reference.

Thank you for your cooperation with our investigation.

Sincerely,
Zdenek
Protection Services Department"

Please be warned of insanctus!

Also, VB.org Staff. What can be done about this guy who's using YOUR SITE to rip people off? Can't you ban him from the forums for using your site and commiting fraud against YOUR customers?


[edit and I'm refering to my request located here: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=68789 ]

<a href="https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=69359" target="_blank">https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=69359</a>

he ripped us off too!

scammed us for $125.00 USD over a year ago

if you would liek his information - parents phone number etc let me know

Unfortunately this is the way of the world well I see it anyway, never trust anybody especially strangers with your money, Paypal counts for nothing as its all virtual, I have money to spend on hack but too scared to do so because I do not know what the average hack goes for, one person asked me for $125 up front and $125 when they had finished, $300 seems a little expensive to me for a fault ticket system

unless this is underwritten by a solicitor it means jack crap, a written agreement with out being underwritten may as well be a handshake a nudge and a wink

I agree with what Dean says. Don't judge unproffessional designs and think they are bad coders. Some of the best coders out there don't even make proffessional looking designs that well and they don't because they are good at not making it look proffessional.

Which IS considered to be an agreement none the less.


Is this jerk getting banned or what?

And he lives in Michigan. I live 10 min from the Michigan border. :angry:

Yes a nudge wink and a handshake should be good enough, but users who rip others off just put a seed of doubt in your mind, it spoils it for the good coders out there, I for one will not be asking for service requests anymore, I'm too scared

No one should ever pay for anything up front. Ever. You're simply asking to be ripped off in that case. However, 1/2 up front and 1/2 on completion is standard. Or at least some deposit to let the person you hire know you are serious about paying for the work.

$300 for some hacks is dirt cheap in my opinion. All the work I've seen posted here is well below standard pricing structures.

I wasn't implying some random person write up a contract. Contracts are useless unless approved by a lawyer. Again after having experience with a client ripping me off, I soon found out that unless the person lives in your local area then it's not a financially viable solution to take action against them. Also just to point out a handshake is a legally binding contract here in the UK :) (so i'm reliably informed)

You don't have to be too scared, just being a bit more careful can be enough.

Ask for references and CHECK them!
Search the forums for posts of that user.
Search the forums for that users username.
Decide on a way of paying which protects both the client and the coder.
I generally accept payment *after* the project, but I'm wary as well if the client doesn't give me the url to his forums, or any other information.
For big projects, agree on partial payments, the first being after a part is coded. If a client isn't willing to pay, he's generally not willing to pay at all!

And, if you're still unsure, ask what kind of experience other users have had with that coder!

If you hire someone for really big hacks, it's absolutelly nessecary to make a real contract signed by both sides, unless you know the hacker very well, as he has done a lot of work for you already.

But even then, vigilance is always important.

i believe half upfront and the other half on completeion is the best deal for both sides:) another way i do it also is i setup a feature before i start from that list i give a price and then when i complete 50% of those features i stop coding until 50% is paid to me(of course i only do this on some projects;) )

anyways paying all upfront is never a good idea:)

Time to add to the list.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...hreadid=321636

When someone hires me to do a job, heres what i do and seems to be the best way for both the client and the company. For example, i was hired to do a vbulletin style for someone. After i coded and designed most of the site i have the client pay 50% of the total amount due. Then when im all finished with the job, i have the client send the other 50%. Then i send him via email the .zip of everything once the payment is recived.

Seems to be the best way IMHO, there is still a chance for the company to rip you off, but me personaly. I wouldn't do all the work and stay up days at a time, to rip someone off. If the work is finished already and they have already paid. It doesn't hurt to send the project.

I also thing insanctus sould be banned from vb.org. If he is using vb.org as a gateway to rip customer off, then there is no reason for him/her to be here.

You guys have been speaking to his wife but he still won't answer the phone himself? :eek:

Mabey it is time for someone that lives near him to drive over to his place and sit in his drive way until he shows up, at least then he can't avoid you by having his wife pick up the phone for him ;).

call "7 on ur side" they will track him down and harass him until he confesses:D or call fox, either will do it:)

That's what I'm saying. VB.org is ALLOWING him to defraud/steal/ripoff Their customers and they are helping him by giving him access to the forums where people are asking for help.

By not Banning him, vb.org is assisting people like this to rip off customers. I wonder the legalities of that.

When members from Ebay rip off other members from Ebay, I do believe Ebay locks their accounts.

Same thing should happen here.

Without going too far into it, the situation and member in question is being discussed by the Administration and Staff of this website. I believe someone mentioned that in another thread, but I can't seem to find it off hand.

But on a side note, vBulletin.org has to be very careful about banning people just because someone says they are untrustworthy. Now, I'm not doubting your claims whatsoever, and it seems you are not alone in this -- which makes a stronger case for the Staff to look at. But please do not think vBulletin.org can get away with banning on whim anyone who doesn't perform to high standards.

vBulletin.org is a site for the licensed vBulletin hacking community to come together to freely discuss vBulletin modifications, hacks, etc. and to promote commeraderie in the hacking community. We are a free site and we encourage coders and members alike to freely* discuss ideas together.

vBulletin does not encourage anyone to solicite paid services. We simply have a separate forum for paid service requests to handle the growing need for such an area. But it all boils down to "buyer beware", as much as I hate to spew the overused phrase, it fits.

I hope my post will be taken for what it's worth and not read into. I'm not trying to argue or simplify the situation. Again, the Administration is looking into the matter and I'm sure it will be handled in a professional way that has both the coders, the members, and vBulletin's best interest at hand.

:)

Well then give him a temp ban until you decide to remove this thief completely.

Unless we are talking about a different insanctus, I have had no issues with this user in the past.

I wonder: Would you like us to give you a "temp ban" if we had a few members saying "Infopro is a thief"?

I believe they are talking about the same one that used to be over vB.nl. There was always something about that particular user that I didn't particularly like.

But I agree with Rose. It's all about the buyer being aware of the person they are dealing with, and you're talking a chance if you decide to trust the other person. There is always this risk when you are transferring money over the internet, un-contracted, for services. Of course, this does not mean the majority of people offering their services are scammers, but there is always that select few. Be careful.

I am back after a month of very little internet time, I had personal issues I had to deal with, I am taking care of ex customers as I can at this moment, please take it to my pm and we will resolve it as quick as possible.

My intent is to finish out going matters then I am done coding (atleast for money)

[coughs]b/s[ /coughs ]

Time will tell.

Though I don't think such comments are appropriate when he is trying to make a mends..

wow, deja vu...

reminds me of the Corey incident ... almost exactly the same, even the apology :)

Exacly my thoughts Crinos...