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Logician 06-03-2004 08:19 PM

Lockdown hack is now allowed
 
Dear vb.org members,

As some of you already knew, so called "Lockdown" hack was not welcomed in vbulletin.org for years due to its high usage in warez boards. Jelsoft has decided that vb.org license system that protects hacks in our site is good enough to keep warez boards away from this hack so we are now allowing the release of this hack in our site considering it can have some legitimate uses for some of our members.

If any of our hackers are willing to release this hack here, you are now welcomed.

Ps. Lockdown is a hack that allows the poster to hide certain texts in the first post of a thread which can only be seen by replying to the thread.

sabret00the 06-03-2004 08:23 PM

wow, what prompted the change in decision?

Logician 06-03-2004 08:29 PM

As a matter of fact even the "ban" was not so obvious. It was just unwelcomed and many hackers prefer not to share the hack here as most were considering it unethical. On the other hand some people always thought that it can have legitimate usage in legitimate boards so it is now allowed since Jelsoft is also ok with it due to our licence system protection which keeps warez sites away.

himm I guess this became a rephrase of my post above lol.

Logikos 06-03-2004 09:40 PM

Now lets see if patrax decides to release it. :p

Zachery 06-03-2004 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live Wire
Now lets see if patrax decides to release it. :p

Actually i know alot of people who have custom coded it, first one to release it will have its glory :)

insanctus 06-03-2004 10:40 PM

Not a glory I want :).....

Xenon 06-03-2004 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by insanctus
Not a glory I want :).....

you're not the only one it seems ;)

the rule was removed over a month ago, and noone really cared till now ^^

Tony G 06-03-2004 11:41 PM

Seems we only found out today? :p

Lurk 06-03-2004 11:48 PM

what's a Lockdown hack?

insanctus 06-03-2004 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurk
what's a Lockdown hack?

Something so evil, no one dared to speak its name until just now..... rumor has it that those who dare say the evil word have vanished not to be seen again.....

Basically it hides text (or even links) until you reply to the thread then it shows, sort of like hidden text

Logikos 06-04-2004 12:01 AM

Its just a hack, lighten up.

insanctus 06-04-2004 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live Wire
Its just a hack, lighten up.

Hmm, joking is not light? interesting ;)

13th_Disciple 06-04-2004 12:33 AM

interesting news indeed.. and like Tony said, just finding out about this today..

dstruct2k 06-04-2004 03:15 AM

Well, the news was just posted today. :p

Dan 06-04-2004 05:22 AM

Very interesting news :)

msimplay 06-04-2004 06:26 AM

i wanted this some time ago coz i saw it on invision board
but thinking now its not really good to force it on people

sabret00the 06-04-2004 07:33 AM

i think it will prove interesting for debate forums, i get some people who tend to just go with the flow in debates, this hack can cause them to actually have a personality and opinion of their own lol

msimplay 06-04-2004 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabret00the
i think it will prove interesting for debate forums, i get some people who tend to just go with the flow in debates, this hack can cause them to actually have a personality and opinion of their own lol

hmm not a bad idea

Xenon 06-04-2004 09:27 AM

yes, it can have some good reasons to use this hack, that's why we discussed about that and removed the rule :)

Brad 06-04-2004 09:35 AM

[high]* Brad wonders who is going to release it first :)[/high]

Dean C 06-04-2004 09:48 AM

I looked into this last night and it seems there's no variable that exists to see if you've replied to a thread so it's a matter of adding a list of repliers userids to the thread table (which could be huge if you have 1000 replies). Or running a query each time. Then there's the matter of adding the vBcode parsing. I was too tired :p

pie 06-04-2004 10:22 AM

Finally. :) Good to hear. I've made a version somewhere so i'll look for it.

Mone' 06-04-2004 11:25 AM

There are 2 types of lockdown hack
one add a few extra field in the posting page where you allow to enter
the text that will be hidden in the post untill a user reply

and the second version uses the [hide] [/hide] tags or whatever you prefer to hide a section of your post untill a user reply.

I have made several versions of the second hack.
www.vbstyles.com/hide.php

The new version 1.5 is totally template driven and can be turned on and off on specific forum.



I might release a lite version here since we have been selling the complete hack for quite sometimes now.

Regards

Mone'

AlexanderT 06-04-2004 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logician
Jelsoft has decided that vb.org license system that protects hacks in our site is good enough to keep warez boards away from this hack so we are now allowing the release of this hack...

FISHY! How does your vb.org license system "protect hacks" to "keep warez boards away"?

Zachery 06-04-2004 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexanderT
FISHY! How does your vb.org license system "protect hacks" to "keep warez boards away"?

Logout and try to get a hack :p

assassingod 06-04-2004 01:59 PM

You have to be verified as Licenced in order to download hacks. Unless someone breaks the licence agreement by distributing hacks to others, illegel vB users cannot get ahold of these hacks. Also, the ban was made before the Licence System was created and vB.org existed.

sabret00the 06-04-2004 02:50 PM

is their one that hides all replies in a thread minus the first one till you've replied?

insanctus 06-04-2004 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabret00the
is their one that hides all replies in a thread minus the first one till you've replied?

Sure it could be made, not to far off from the reg lock down.

sabret00the 06-04-2004 03:00 PM

see that's a great hack right there

/me clicks mass "wink wink, nudge nugde"

AlexanderT 06-05-2004 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
Logout and try to get a hack :p

And that is the "protection" we were talking about?

Not that I really care, but for the sake of the argument... what makes you think that warez owner have no access to vb.org, either via some legitimate user who added them (remember, we can also add our co-admins), or by being legitimate users themselves. The license system may make it harder for non-licensed users to access hacks, but it is definitely not a barrier for a pirate. And to justify the SUDDEN change in Jelsoft policy (in the past it wasn't even allowed to discuss the lockdown hack) by the mere existance of the license system - which happen to be installed ever since I purchased vB 2 1-1/2 years - is simply nonsense. Well, no need to argue here. Jelsoft already tried in the past to sell us petty explanations for sudden and unexpected policy changes (does the vB3 importer system ring a bell?).

Brad 06-05-2004 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexanderT
And that is the "protection" we were talking about?

Not that I really care, but for the sake of the argument... what makes you think that warez owner have no access to vb.org, either via some legitimate user who added them (remember, we can also add our co-admins), or by being legitimate users themselves. The license system may make it harder for non-licensed users to access hacks, but it is definitely not a barrier for a pirate. And to justify the SUDDEN change in Jelsoft policy (in the past it wasn't even allowed to discuss the lockdown hack) by the mere existance of the license system - which happen to be installed ever since I purchased vB 2 1-1/2 years - is simply nonsense. Well, no need to argue here. Jelsoft already tried in the past to sell us petty explanations for sudden and unexpected policy changes (does the vB3 importer system ring a bell?).

Erm, mabey you should go back and read, this restriction was in place before vBulletin.org had the system in place.

AlexanderT 06-05-2004 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad.loo
Erm, mabey you should go back and read, this restriction was in place before vBulletin.org had the system in place.

The restriction was in place until Logician wrote this announcement TWO days ago.

The license system has been in place for as long as I can remember (that is at least for 1-1/2 years when I purchased vBulletin).

Xenon 06-05-2004 01:58 PM

Quote:

The restriction was in place until Logician wrote this announcement TWO days ago.
Nope, the restriction was in place until 1.5 Months ago :)
And it was just in place that long, because Jelsoft never said it could be lifted, and we didn't ask to lift it ;)

AlexanderT 06-05-2004 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenon
Nope, the restriction was in place until 1.5 Months ago :)
And it was just in place that long, because Jelsoft never said it could be lifted, and we didn't ask to lift it ;)

Xenon, I am not here to argue with you or anyone else ;) Whether the restriction was lifted 1-1/2 months ago or two days ago doesn't make much of a difference considering for how long the license system has been in place.

Besides, according to Logician, hackers who are willing to release the lockdown hack are "now welcomed" (NOW - not 1-1/2 months ago) to do so.

Let's stop this argument; I think most of us know that Jelsoft's decisions and also the timing of those decisions is very often incomprehensible to us mortals.

sabret00the 06-05-2004 10:49 PM

would i be outta place to ask "does it matter" it wasn't at one time, it is now, wohoo, who cares, it's still not been released, it really just doesn't matter.

[high]* sabret00the requsts an e-group hug
[/high]

and stop winking at eachother and just exchange phone numbers, this isn't a dancehall :p

Zachariah 06-06-2004 02:42 AM

so what did I miss ? Igot a few 40's in the fridge.

y2ksa 06-06-2004 03:43 AM

hi where can i get this hack?

Zachery 06-06-2004 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2ksa
hi where can i get this hack?

No one has released it yet

insanctus 06-06-2004 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
No one has released it yet

I think no one wants to, odd when you think about how many hackers and not one yet has bothered. I am sure alot have not for same reason as I.

But I would bet it is out with in week... someone will take the fall I mean glory :)

Mone' 06-06-2004 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
No one has released it yet

I have made it since the first vb3 release just not freeware.
I might release a free lite version soon.

Also paxtrack (not 100% sure about the name) has release several lockdown versions.

I guess no one fell like posting it here....

Mone'


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