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VBDev 04-14-2004 09:06 PM

vBJournal for VB3
 
So,

Spence asked on our site for a such system, it seems some people had a project to do it, but nobody really works on it :mad:

Has someone began a serious project ?

Thanks to answer, else I'll create a new one

Thread on our board :

http://www.vbulletindev.net/forums/showthread.php?t=188

Giveit2u43 04-14-2004 09:53 PM

I think you`ll find lots of Journal talk and very little Jounral action.. I think anybody that actually gets a journal hack released would have a winner on their hands..

AN-net 04-14-2004 10:06 PM

i can quickly make this(not like a few minutes but maybe like by 2morrow night).
i have alrdy started it:)
questions:
do you want a rating system?
do you want a comment system?


any other suggestions please post here:)

Giveit2u43 04-14-2004 10:31 PM

I think a Ratings & Comments System are a must for this kind of hack :)

VBDev 04-14-2004 10:36 PM

What have you already done An-Net ?

Sure you can finish it quickly ?

AN-net 04-15-2004 01:22 AM

i am currently working on the comment system.

AN-net 04-15-2004 01:56 AM

ok im done with the comment system

sabret00the 04-15-2004 01:52 PM

wow, will it be able to port ryangels entries an-net?

spence2 04-15-2004 02:07 PM

AN-net, here is a copy of my post from grog6's site:

Now, for this proposed hack:
Admin grants permissions to view journals by usergroup.
Admin grants permissions to create journals by usergroup.
Admin names & sets up multiple instances (types, kinds, categories, whatever) of journals.

For example: "JOURNALS" "SHORT STORIES" "DEAR DIARY" "FAMILY TRIPS"

In the navigation there should be a dropdown list instead of the present "JOURNALS" link.
Basically, the categories regardless of their names are just: Journal 1, Journal 2, Journal 3, Journal 4
as each is just a duplication or multiple instance of the original "journal" in terms of presentation.
A link is presented on these pages for members to "CREATE THEIR OWN" based on which category they are viewing.

Members add entries into their journals, designating whether they are:
Public (all members may view and comment)
Public no comments (all members may view but comments are disabled)
Buddies (only members on their buddy's list may view & comment)
Buddies no comments (buddy's may view but comments are disabled)
Private (no viewing or commenting)

WYSIWYG submission form with preview option for entries.
Photos allowed (thumbnails?)
Attachments allowed
Word wrap
Users may edit or delete own entries
Link in user's profile to various submission pages
(example: add to journal
add to short story
add to dear diary
add to family trip)

STYLE: templates & .css that may be ammended by admin and incorporated into all styles available on board

Pagination for both entries, entry lists and comments.
Number of comments display.

There should be links in postbit (including legacy postbit) to view user's journals if they exist.

Admin can delete journals.
Admin can view/delete/edit rights for all entries.
Admin allow/disallow BBcode in entries & comments.

Perhaps tables could be added to memberlist to show categories with icon links to journal pages.

This gives you roughly an idea of what this hack would be...a lot of work, I know!

And, yes, if this could import the entries from Ryangel's vb2 hack, all would be terrific in hackland!

Thank you so much for taking up this project.
No doubt, you will have many grateful "customers."

AN-net 04-15-2004 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence2
AN-net, here is a copy of my post from grog6's site:

Now, for this proposed hack:
Admin names & sets up multiple instances (types, kinds, categories, whatever) of journals.

For example: "JOURNALS" "SHORT STORIES" "DEAR DIARY" "FAMILY TRIPS"

Buddies (only members on their buddy's list may view & comment)
Buddies no comments (buddy's may view but comments are disabled)
Private (no viewing or commenting)

WYSIWYG submission form with preview option for entries.
Photos allowed (thumbnails?)
Attachments allowed



Admin can view/delete/edit rights for all entries.

ok about admin's editing/viewing/and deleting entries. well i have decided that all entries labeled private may not even be viewed by administrators cause i believe if something is private it deserves to stay that way i.e. private messages.

um attachments sounds like much but i guess ill think on it

WYSIWYG i dont really have any experience with but if someone cares to explain to me how to use it will gladly code it:)

instead of using buddylist i though the journalist could designate for each entry who may see that entry by userid

i really wasnt thinking categories this time around but user's can title their journal's as they please or leave them blank and it use their user name.

AN-net 04-15-2004 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabret00the
wow, will it be able to port ryangels entries an-net?

i have never used ryangles so as of yet no it cannot. if i someone were to lend access to their database to check out how the database and information is setup i may be able to make a script to port stuff:)

AN-net 04-15-2004 06:43 PM

im currently working on inserting journals trying to get it to update the last entry field in the table:)

VBDev 04-15-2004 07:37 PM

Ok

I'll could create add-ons for other spence's suggestions ... ;)

Coz it's now a long time (and he isn't alone) he's waiting for this, and I think he really wants what he's written :devious:

AN-net 04-15-2004 07:56 PM

well if you someone tells me how to code WYSIWYG i can do that:)

Dean C 04-15-2004 08:02 PM

AN-Net - you might as well make private journal logs available to admins. And add that as a note when making one. Remember most people have phpmyadmin access and they can just browse a user's journal entries freely there :)

VBDev 04-15-2004 08:02 PM

I've never used it ;)


I am not better than you on it

AN-net 04-15-2004 09:01 PM

true, i guess so:)

AN-net 04-16-2004 01:02 AM

vbdev, exactly what are you coding?

Drile 04-16-2004 10:40 PM

I can't wait for this.

A very nice subscriber only feature.

AN-net 04-18-2004 09:40 PM

ok im currently working on the privacy system:)

kerplunknet 04-19-2004 02:57 AM

This definitely has to go through. I don't know much about hacking, but I wish you guys the best of luck!

AN-net 04-19-2004 03:12 AM

really the only thing i have to code after this is the administration part;)

spence2 04-19-2004 11:57 AM

AN-net, it is great to hear that you are making progress! This will be a great hack for all of the community and your work is really appreciated.

The requests that I made earlier are based on various threads here at vB that discuss the previous journal system for vB2...the things that people who have used a journal system seemed to need.

The ability for admin to delete/edit/view all entries is needed to avoid abuse of the system by users. It would be great if everyone were as nice as you and I, but they aren't.

If you could perhaps give us a list of your proposed features, those with experience using this kind of hack could contribute to making this an amazing hack.

Please do not be discouraged by the lack of responses to your proposed hack...I think the reason that people are not jumping in to cheer you on is because so many people have promised this hack and then not followed through. And a lot of people are "stuck" with Ryangel's vB2 Journal Hack with no way to upgrade it to vB3. You should take a look at this thread to get an idea of how truly desperate those people are! And you might look at this to see what type of journal system most people are hoping for.

Again, thank you for your hard work.

AN-net 04-19-2004 07:02 PM

do you really want this hack to use your buddy list you provided for vb already?

spence2 04-20-2004 01:17 AM

Of course we are talking about only the journalist who wish not to have a certain entry viewed publicly, correct?

In an earlier post you said:

"instead of using buddylist i though the journalist could designate for each entry who may see that entry by userid"

1. I'm not sure how this could work. Let's say the journalist has 30 people that they would allow to see the entry or comment on the entry. That would take a lot of work to add them individually.

2. If the journalist has a buddy list, and he/she has the option of saying yes/no to the people on his buddy list viewing a particular entry, then that seems a more efficient way to do it. If they don't want someone on their buddy list to view their entries, then they could take them off the list as a buddy.

3. I like your idea of it being on a per entry basis.

4. It is your hack, your hard work. I think it would be nice if this could some how be left to the journalist as their option...but that is your decision. I totally respect that you should do what you think is best.

And I thank you for being open to suggestions!

13th_Disciple 04-20-2004 01:46 AM

if this was to be added to my site, admin would set viewing permissions at install.. by default, it should only be to ragistered and above.. anything that needs to remain that private doesn't need to be on a public forum..

that is my personal opinion and mine alone.. i just don't think it's a good idea that potential community issues could develop if one of the viewers says how the writer hates another user within the community.. that would break up a board very quickly.. and i would hope an "addition" to a forum wouldn't mean instant subtraction of participation and membership..

only an admin should ever have the ability to keep entries private.. and only his own..

spence2 04-20-2004 02:11 AM

AN-net...could the permission to view be changed on an entry later by the journalist?

What I am thinking is that this would allow journalists to keep entries "hidden" if they want to work on a "rough draft" version of something. Then later, when they have polished their words, they might "publish" them by changing the viewing/comments permissions.

And in a separate issue:
Will it be possible to list say 25 of the journalist's entries with a "view all entries" link to keep things tidy?

And could you keep the word "journal" template driven? So, that the admin can call journals whatever we want? Say..."reports" or "journals" or "articles" IF you have ruled out letting admin define categories?

=========

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13th_Disciple
if this was to be added to my site, admin would set viewing permissions at install.. by default, it should only be to ragistered and above.. anything that needs to remain that private doesn't need to be on a public forum...

I agree that most will want only registered users to be allowed to have journals or to post comments. However, what remains "private" on a public forum may really depend on the nature of your board and the way you use the journal system to cater to your members. Some use the journal system as a "diary" for members to record their personal thoughts, which they may not wish to share with the community. I suppose it all depends on your purpose and the needs of your community as you perceive them.

AN-net 04-20-2004 03:04 AM

yes all entries are editable and so are comments and journal info. i do plan of adding the setting to allow privacy. anyways ill keep working on this and hopefully have some screenies soon;)

spence2 04-20-2004 04:00 AM

Thank you, AN-net. I know a lot of people are looking forward to it!

AN-net 04-21-2004 01:40 AM

it may take me a little bit longer to finish this hack because i currently accquired a new coding job:) but i will try my best to keep up with it;)

spence2 04-21-2004 02:17 AM

I am happy for you, AN-net. Hope all goes well with your job.

Could you give us any idea what kind of delay you are anticipating? Days? Weeks?
Months?

AN-net 04-21-2004 02:40 AM

maybe a like a week and a couple days:) but its coming along nice;)

spence2 04-21-2004 03:09 AM

I'm certain that as soon as you can place this in beta that you will find a lot of people helping with the finishing touches.

Probably a lot of people don't even realize yet that you are working on this because they never read this forum. Looking forward to your continuing progress.

kerplunknet 04-21-2004 03:20 AM

Three cheers for AN-net!

Hip, hip, hurray!

sabret00the 04-21-2004 07:43 AM

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...7&page=1&pp=40

ryangels incase it's unseen :)

djohn 04-21-2004 11:32 AM

Don't know if these features were suggested yet...
  • Some sort of customizable user info on the side a-la livejournal, e.g mini calendar(!) with latest post dates, avatar, web site, ect.
  • Ability to add friends, view other people's friends, have a special part in your journal with your friend's latest posts.
  • Total stats: number of journals, posts, comments.
  • Journal list with username, number of entries, number of comments, last post time, last comment by, and it's time, total views of the journal.
  • Ability to search journals, filter them, search entries and comments.
  • Journal rating
  • Ability to edit styles of the journal

TheComputerGuy 04-22-2004 12:40 PM

I think a way for someone to make their journal whatever style they want to...like customize it would like really kick-@$$ of LJ or anything like that.

Also a way for only friends like that are on your buddy list can view a private entry.

I am very excited about this!

Cold Steel 04-27-2004 05:56 PM

/me cheers for AN-net.

AN-net 04-30-2004 06:31 PM

just finished the editing part of the journal and entry. i am currently working on the deletion system:)

spence2 05-01-2004 01:47 AM

glad you see you back! hope all went well.


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