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FlyBoy73 04-14-2004 04:07 AM

Inside the Pixel - d2alio - still around?
 
I just checked out d2alio's website, www.insidethepixel.com and they don't seem to have done any work this year.. ? Anyone know what is going on with them? Are they still around?

Thanks!

Dean C 04-14-2004 10:07 AM

Daemon is apparently still around :)

7harmonicz 04-14-2004 10:45 PM

Yeah, there still around, I get emails from inside the pixel on occasion.

Zachery 04-14-2004 11:53 PM

Xelation from what i understand is no longer around, while Daemon is

FlyBoy73 04-15-2004 03:17 AM

Does anyone know if they are still turning stuff out? (New Designs)
Wow.. Can't anyone stick together as a team? lol I would love to see a really reliable and highly customized "company" cement and stick around. Lord knows there is money in it..

Did Dameon do the latest version of www.aliensoup.com ? I don't see it listed or any of their logo info..

Sam FT 04-15-2004 04:49 AM

He agreed to do a custom design for my website, Full Throttle. And when Matt aka Xelation went AWOL Dameon had to turn away his all his clients except me at the time. He is a big time NASCAR fan like myself and he wanted to do this design. Problem was it took longer that I except plus trying to find a new coder. So after many months, I had to let him go as my website design. He is a good guy and I just think with Xelation gone, trying to get a new job and dealing with his website and my website design he had too much on his plate.

As far as I know Dameon didn't do AlienSoup lastest design, I read somewhere on their site that someone inhouse did the design.

Dean C 04-15-2004 10:50 AM

Well really I think you're best sending an email to him via the form if you want to contact him :)

Chris Gwynne 04-15-2004 01:48 PM

The AlienSoup design was done by multiple people. Dameon and John Schwegel did the graphics and I coded it.

If you want to contact him try him at; dameonw@insidethepixel.com

Leppard 08-31-2004 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
Well really I think you're best sending an email to him via the form if you want to contact him :)


FYI... He doesn't return email. At least he has yet to return mine. I purchased the geltech style and was promised there would be a free 3.x upgrade to it. There hasn't been.

Sam FT 08-31-2004 02:05 PM

I wouldn't trust or go near InsideThePixel Dameon is just another like Corey. Not taking on too many project just the fact of not delivering them.

RacerX 09-01-2004 08:38 PM

Great... Wouldn't it be nice to have someone with talent and business sense. Seems to be a pipe-dream!

Zachery 09-01-2004 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam FT
I wouldn't trust or go near InsideThePixel Dameon is just another like Corey. Not taking on too many project just the fact of not delivering them.

Ive talked with Damoen and he does not seem like a bad guy and i would not personaly compare him to corey wojen

Chris Gwynne 09-01-2004 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam FT
I wouldn't trust or go near InsideThePixel Dameon is just another like Corey. Not taking on too many project just the fact of not delivering them.

He's delivered on all of his projects for quite a while now. So don't make accusations.

Leppard. The GelTech skin was discontinued quite a while back, including support for it.

Regs 09-02-2004 03:23 AM

Do you read?

I believe Sam FT just got through saying how his project was not delivered.

I bought the Geltech skin. Why wasn't I notified it was discontinued?

Chris Gwynne 09-02-2004 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regs
Do you read?

I believe Sam FT just got through saying how his project was not delivered.

I bought the Geltech skin. Why wasn't I notified it was discontinued?

Do you?

Sam FT said that he had to let him go because Dameon had no coder, he then tells us that Dameon is a good guy and had too much on his plate. Now without warrant 4 months later he's blasting him again.

I don't know why you wasn't notified. But seeing as there's been no official site for ITP for some months now I would have thought that it was pretty obvious that the skin was discontinued, but that's just me.

Regs 09-02-2004 01:17 PM

Quote:

Sam FT said that he had to let him go because Dameon had no coder
i.e, the project was not completed/delivered.

Were you ever on the ITP support forums? Did you ever see all the ignored support questions? Did you ever see when they just started deleting support questions without answering them?

It was a business that never should have opened and failed to deliver on every aspect of what a reputable business is expected to.

They/he screwed up, plain and simple. Don't insult those that were burned first-hand who are taking the time to share their experiences with the rest of the community.

Now, since this Geltech skin is discontinued and was a commercial product, what is holding anyone back from releasing it here for free?

~Regs.

Zachery 09-02-2004 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regs
i.e, the project was not completed/delivered.

Were you ever on the ITP support forums? Did you ever see all the ignored support questions? Did you ever see when they just started deleting support questions without answering them?

It was a business that never should have opened and failed to deliver on every aspect of what a reputable business is expected to.

They/he screwed up, plain and simple. Don't insult those that were burned first-hand who are taking the time to share their experiences with the rest of the community.

Now, since this Geltech skin is discontinued and was a commercial product, what is holding anyone back from releasing it here for free?

~Regs.

Becauise it is still a commericail prodcut and it still protedted under copyright.

Distrubting it would be illegal

Regs 09-02-2004 06:24 PM

And for how long would it be protected under copyright?

I'm under the assumption that ITP broke their "contract" with myself by not providing the VB3 version they stated would be made available when VB3 went gold, a key selling point they made when peddaling the style.

It's a worthy discussion I think.

For example, say I 'released' the Geltech style that worked with VB3 for free. If ITP claimed copyright infringement and then attempted to proceed with legal action, would I have a counter-claim/case for 'breach of contract'? What would take precedence?

Cheers,

~Regs.

Zachery 09-03-2004 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regs
And for how long would it be protected under copyright?

I'm under the assumption that ITP broke their "contract" with myself by not providing the VB3 version they stated would be made available when VB3 went gold, a key selling point they made when peddaling the style.

It's a worthy discussion I think.

For example, say I 'released' the Geltech style that worked with VB3 for free. If ITP claimed copyright infringement and then attempted to proceed with legal action, would I have a counter-claim/case for 'breach of contract'? What would take precedence?

Cheers,

~Regs.

Lets not get into it.

Heres what i know

Jelsoft discontinued vBulletin 1.0, just because its discontinued does not me it can be freely distrubuted, as it would still require a license, while jelsoft the company is intact the same is true for ITP's IP. Which is their skin, if you did not purchase a license to use it you cannot use it now nor will you ever be able to.

Regs 09-03-2004 04:41 AM

Anyone else care to have a healthy discussion on this?

I'm always interested in hearing other's opinions and responses to hypothetical issues.

Cheers,

~Regs.

Blindchild02 09-03-2004 04:52 AM

He is still around, i talked to him on AIM 2 days ago, he said insidethepixel is soon to be updated... he's been doing some VB designs

d2alio 09-04-2004 04:14 AM

Am I still around?
Somewhat.
My time is very limited with full time work, so taking on clients isn't really a priority.

Do I still do work?
Yes. I do. HOWEVER, it is EXTREMELY limited. Sam was correct in saying that his project took longer than expected. However, at the time I was in fact without a coder and getting things to work was nearly impossible with time constraints. Since then I have completed a few more projects and will be launching another (my own) shortly.

Latest launches include:
http://www.texasatvs.com/forums/
http://www.pbjunkie.com

Both taken a few months after my failed project with Full Throttle.
My time is really limited on designs, so, unless you're willing to wait possibly 1-3 months for your project and you're willing to shell out a large amount of cash (yes, I AM NOT CHEAP in case you're wondering because I do consider myself ONE of the best vBulletin designers around), I wouldn't consider going with my services. That's not to say that we're overly expensive, because we deliver on our designs and customization. But if you're under the $1,000 market, you'd probably better look elsewhere ;)

d2alio 09-04-2004 04:17 AM

as a matter of fact, the ONLY reason I even saw this post was because it was forwarded to me by Blindchild (thanks bud). So, I have a lot of people that watch out for me lol because THAT is how limited my time is. Currently, I don't have any clients as I just finished the last bunch for the time being and they should be launching their sites shortly.

I probably wouldn't expect InsideThePixel to launch in full any time soon as I just intend to do one project at a time and not overmarket. I simply don't have the time for mass market. But, at the same time, you'd get better results since you would be one of TWO clienst (at most at one time) being worked on.

Right now, I'm just working on my own other non-design project. It's a bit of secret, but it's gaming related for those that know me ;)

Dean C 09-04-2004 11:11 AM

Ok well I think this thread has served it's purpose now. As you can see d2alio is still around and if you have any complaints please forward to them him privately now :)


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