hip hop message board ...?
 

does anybody else here have one.. or am i all alone

there are about 2 million other boards about that "unique" topic, you don't have to feel lonely ^^

Yes, and most of the ones I've seen have ripped graphics too, for whatever reason.

Anyway, I don't understand what's so great about hip hop. Again for whatever reason most hip hop "songs" I've heard are obscene or violent--and a lot of them are just plain stupid (i.e. one-syllable rhymes that don't make any sense)--and besides that, the emergence of hip hop has turned MTV and much of the media in general racist. (I'll provide evidence to support myself if you decide you wanna go there.)

I am however a fan of Linkin Park because their rhymes are thoughtful and make sense...and besides that, Mike has music to back himself up.

Anyway...

Unfortunately hip hop message boards do get this general prejudice. I can't say I don't agree either as most have earnt this reputation by using warez vb (in the past) and ripping designs (in the past) and just being generally monotonous. Some are unique and perhaps a nice community but about 90% of them i'm not a fan of at all as they all tend to be using the same old vbskins styles these days thinking "Hey I have a nice style! My site is amazing now" :)

Just my 2cents

By the way, Dean, that doesn't include yours. :p ;)

i understand what your saying hopefully i can make a good example for a hip hop message board.

n!ck: alot of "rap" is that way but if were talkin about real hip hop then i would have to say that your wrong... im talking about artists like deltron 30 30, heiroglyphics, jedi mind tricks, and alot of other "underground artists" . im talkin about hip hop your talkin about rap

There are some good examples, but the amount of them seem to make them bad-looking. =/

^^^ i know what u mean

^Linkin Park Suckz..lmao do u listen to rock and roll music wen u want to commit suicide or something?

rock and roll kids are the ones dat are stupid..its usually the kids dat listen to suicide music like rock and roll..who go and shoot up skoolz

well u have a rite to ur opinion..i have a rite to mine

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lesane, doesnt he run some site filled with hip hop?

^^^ yes he does

At least we pull our pants up and don't walk around with our a$$ hanging out or use ebonics.

Nick, ofcourse everyone has their own tastes but it's pretty simplistic to call a music genre 'stupid' if you don't know much about it, i don't love rock but i am not call it stupid because it will definately has it's positive things. But rap is not stupid, the rhymes are definately not stupid, i can talk hours about this but let me show you an example: Tupac Shakur <- that one guy influenced more people then every rock artist/group will ever do. Just don't try to be so shortsighted. ;)

And yes, i have also a rap/hiphop/general forum... an unique design with unique addons and much more.

Some hip hop/rap music does pretty much suck, depending on who you listen too. You can listen to some 2pac/eminem/Dre/Eve/50/DMX/P.Diddy etc etc and they can have an effect on you, JUST because of the lyrics. What makes a great song is great lyrics and if you feel what they are saying then you will appreciate the song more. Most hip-hop songs tend to be aimed at lifes struggles and things like that and alot of people can relate to it. But people have different tastes. Beeing an emcee myself i love rap music but i also enjoy rock music such as linkin park because they impliment rap into their music and it comes out nicely, unlike limp bizkit ;)

So yah the babblin on has finished now soz :p I own a rap board too Horray

Reading this thread was entertaining. Rap != HipHop. End of story. For example, Ja Rule may claim he's a rapper, but he does more hiphop, 2pac on the other hand did rap. Other people like Brotha Lynch Hung, Mr Doctor, etc. they did proper rap.

Some rap is awful. Some Hiphop is awful. The rest, is all good ;).

Well said there :)

It's all the same to me - you either love it or hate :) (Like marmite :p)

Noone normal can hate Marmite though;)

Satan

if anything i would say it's the other way round, but they're all rappers
something like that lol

i love hip-hop/rap but don't try and differentiate between the two as theirs all to much, i mean officially hip-hop is the culture and rap is the music. but all in all you'll have artists of all genres that just straight up suck :nod:

as for Linkin Park, i love their music, but they'll never be rappers to me, rock tends to immitate hip-hop more and more, with the whole rise of the rappy-screamy thingy check out artists like F4AF for example, which i personally think suck, but meh.

Hip-Hop is a great genre.

this will just produce an error. (Same as HipHop produces an error in the ears :p)

hehe,

I'll agree that alot of the hiphop sites turn into racist debates - this and that, some songs are plain stupid and i'm a big hiphop fan but not all hiphop is like that...producers like the neptunes/N.E.R.D are easily forgotten about when people slander hiphop/rap. The thing that rap seems to do more than anything is glorify voilence/guns & drugs.

The people who represent hiphop in a positive way, stand out from all the rest of the posers - jedi mind tricks, canibus and some of the old school rappers.

I'm a rock & roll kid, and I dont think by no means I am stupid. (And calling someone stupid is rich coming from someone who abbreviates)

And not all people who listen to heavey music will "go and shot up schools" or commite suicide,

Tony Blair listens to rock music and he isn't suicidal or dangerous (He is a bit of a retard though)

Tony Blair is very dangerous, he just isn't siucidal :)

He is also recovering from some kind of heart defect atm too ^^

i get where your coming from but you're looking at the wrong pool of talent, check out where em originated from, battle cats and concious rappers, ppl like De La Soul, Brand Nubian then Black Star, The Roots and Slum Village, it's very different from the usual Pac trap (40% proven depressing and 40% proven violent) tbh i tend to listen to alot of the 'real'-er rappers now as they chat less ++++ and talk more about the struggle that hustling is rather than the glory of killing.

I agree with you artists like the Neptunes are forgotten in debates but that's mostly to do with it's the same sound and so few artists drop over a neptune beat even tho everyones got one, but then you got producers of the art like Dj Premier, Dj Hi-Tek, Kanye West and it's a whole other thing, the production is of a superior level, it effects me listening to all other music types due to this as i just can't take shoddy productions and sound engineering.

My tastes for hip-hop really do vary and as much as i come down on Pac, he's a good artist i got a bit of his stuff but saying that, he's released more ++++ onto the market than LL, he tends to ooze week production :(

Seriously theirs too many artists to say that rappers just rap about drugs and guns, and i promise you that 85% of the ones you hear rapping about that stuff, didn't own a gun till after they got signed and it's more to do with upholding the image of the fake life they created for themself than selling drugs and stuff. and as for them older rappers it's as Saigon said "you aint out on the block no more" so even them who lived it, are just faking to sell records, it's quite sad, especially when you listen to the real stuff and know ppl who live that life. all in all tho don't judge hip-hop from the radio or magazine, most of the decent artists aint been on any wax bar a mixtape and the ones that are releasing albums don't sell :(

From the current mainstream crop i can only take; Juelz Santana, Tony Yayo, Ludacris and Ghostface (who wouldn't have made it mainstream if he didn't blow with Wu) anything else, stay away from :p joke, but try them and the rest of the artists i mentioned and then tell me what you think and diss Hip-Hop :)

Disclaimer: at times i waffled and forgot what i was on about, but still i finished with a point :)

Hmm i agree with you on most but, Ludacris? Come onnnnnnnnn hes got no talent at all. Its people like Ludap**s and Jarule etc that ruin rap music by going all luvy duvy and making all these love songs. Ok fair enough some are good but they give the wrong image. If you listen to a jarule song you enjoy it sometimes, but its too luvy duvy, Pac however could make a luv song such as Unconditional Love and he still kept the Rap image in there if you get me. He kept the thug part of him going in the song. Pac will go down as a ledgend only because he spoke his mind and people related just like Marshall Mathers aka Eminem. But most rap fans wud have to admit they didnt own a majority of pac songs until he passed away, thats when he really became a icon. Ghost face killa is koo 2, like that song he did with mary j blidge (all that i got is you) thats got a good rhythm going.

Im done babblin now :)

the thing with 2pac is he was poop till just before he died, he only started saying stuff that i personally found relevant in the way he put it across and on teh beats he put it across on 7 day theory, since then i picked up a fair bit of the older stuff and a few remixes, but meh, he was poop.

Luda i used to hate him to much but then realised he's what hip-hop was originally about, having fun, he raps about smoking weed and having sex, i can relate to that :nod: the song that got me to like him was Freaky Things, and i don't like all his stuff but enough to say he's decent.

As for Ghost that song was nice but he's done so much more, he varies so much and does alot of back to the roots of hip-hop tunes

i mean i can't listen to Eminem no more, DMX, 50 Cent, most artists for that matter lol.

As for love songs it's all good, it's just that he's a fool JaRule, he talks to much poop and wants to be every other rapper, just can't take him. Not everyone can be Ganstaz :rolleyes: but you gotta respect that and let them take you to other aspects of the art.

2pac is more then just a rapper, he had an incredible intelligence, he was a poet, he was a moviestar and touched millions souls with it.

It’s just not only his music and acting that makes 2pac an idol for many, it’s who he was.

I mean, they are giving 2pac lessons on university to learn about his intelligence. Philosophers are study 2pac's intelligence. They said that they want to realize us that 2pac was in conversation with some of the greatest literature of our time. Just because he’s a hip-hop artist, shouldn’t be belittled.

Well said!

i don't belittle his presence just reintroduce reality to his musical accomplishments and i wouldn't say he was an incredible intelligence, he just had a voice where the rest of the ppl who feel the same and have the same ideas don't.

It's a fact that he had an incredible intelligence, it's not a thing that you can discuss or like such as rap/hiphop hehe. You gave him a word and he will give a whole reality story back in seconds. I mean, millions of people are touched by his lyrics wich are written in minutes.

His intelligence and willingness to embrace the things he spoke about were also major draws. It's his intelligence that gives his vocals/records that undeniable power.

Denying the need for a dividing line between life and art (or, for that matter, life and death and as philosopher of death), 2Pac's tumultuous existence and death-obsessed raps had a frightening synchronicity; it's impossible to hear his music without considering the crucible from which it spilled.

lol..Kids kids..

I like rap..Dont mean I wanna go punch in walls and throw knifes at people..Rap doesn't make you do anything, you do..

Oh and ALL rap isn't about drugs, guns, and violence..

Listen to Immortal Teqnique, Canibus, Aesop Rock...-Underground

Read both of your sentences and you'll see the irony with two particular words.

I'd rather not listen to Canibus lol :)

You are lucky you are a licensed member or you would have been banend on the spot for making that post. You are lucky I am in a good mood thanks to the weather or I would have investigated your location and contacted local law enforcement agencies because what you have posted constitutes verbal harrassment.

Clearly, this is your last warning, too.

I also neglected to mention that Dean is a moderator here.

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