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Sue 09-01-2003 06:55 AM

I saw the most horrific thing tonight :cries:
 
Tonight while sitting here on this computer I heard very loud yowling outside, and I thought perhaps it was a couple cats fighting. I looked out the window and I see a car stopped in the road. I look in front of the car, and there's my neighbor's kitten in the street, yowling in pain. It got hit by a car.

The poor thing's leg was just flailing around as if it were an unused limb that wasn't supposed to be there. It was so terrible.

What's even worse is the #@#@^#%$*%$*^% drove off and left it there. Bastard.

My fiance went out after I gave him a blanket and gently, carefully picked up the kitten. There was no way in hell we were going to leave it there.

We drove as fast as we could to the animal hospital, got there in 5 minutes. They took the kitten in while we waited in a room.

The doctor came back and told us that its right pelvis was shattered completely.

We covered the initial treatment costs, and were given a low estimate and a high estimate, and put down 75% of the low cost estimate for xrays, fluids, iv, etc.

I am crying right now thinking about the poor thing.

We tried the neighbor's tonight but no one was home, or wasn't answering their door.

We're going to try again tomorrow.

I hope to the gods and goddesses that they will help the poor dear and not want to put him down.

The vet told us that if they go the surgical route, it can cost anywhere from 2-3 thousand dollars. I tell you, if I had the money to spend like that, it would be no questions asked; just do it. I wouldn't care if the neighbors paid us back or not. It would just be our cat after that anyway ;)

But the other option she said was that since this is a kitten, 4-6 months old, they heal quickly. Can anyone confirm this for sure? I dunno about a shattered pelvis. :( So anyway, the other option she gave us is to keep it in a dog cage for 6 -8 weeks with food, water, bed, etc. We have a large cage from a dog we once had a few years ago.

I truly hope the neighbors will want to help it. If they don't at all, I want to try the 6-8 week thing. I want it to have a chance to live is all. If this is what we end up doing, and at the end of 6-8 weeks it hasn't improved, I'll do what's necessary, although I'll be heartbroken for this little guy.

It just sucks, I can't believe how cruel people can be. I wish I had gotten the license plate number of the bastard's car. I was on the 2nd floor (our apartment) and couldn't see it. :(

The kitten is beautiful. Dark chocolate coat with amber eyes.

:( :( :(

assassingod 09-01-2003 07:12 AM

Thats awful:(

I got this from google:
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With any injury to the back the cat could have spinal problems or a shattered pelvis. It is important that you cat is treated for these injuries as yes broken bones will heal but they may heal deformed and cause your cat more problems in the long run or with a spinal injury need specialist help immediately to give your kitten the best chance of recovering.
Hopefully it will be alright

insanctus 09-01-2003 07:13 AM

That is sad that the person just ran off. Perhaps they was drinking (it is that weekend)

But as for costs you never know if the person next door has 3k to put in a kitten.

I find it very cool that you and yours took the time to help it though.

Chris M 09-01-2003 09:01 AM

That is really sad to hear - I hope the Kitten will be alright:(

Satan

kamu 09-01-2003 10:58 AM

I had 2 of my cats killed, and the last cat got hit by a car, my neighbors spotted the person and recognized him as my old best friend whom I caught with my girlfriend a week before. I put him into the hospital and spent 2 days in jail.. it was all worth it, I'm a cat lover.

Dean C 09-01-2003 12:33 PM

It's a terrible thing when this happens. All my cats don't go anywhere near the road when a car is near. I make sure they are petrified of cars and run for cover when one is near. By driving at them, honking the car horn. It sounds cruel but not one of my cats has ever been run over. It's the safest way :(

bvtonedog 09-01-2003 12:34 PM

aww poor kitten :(, hopefully in the end the kitten will be ok

lasto 09-01-2003 12:46 PM

by law u dont need to report a cat if u run it over - u can just leave it by the roadside or bag it and bin it.
Not nice i know but the law for dogs is totally different and must be reported.
No animal should suffer in needless pain so sorry to hear what you went though sue.
Also 2-3 thousand dollors for a cat - be cheaper to have it put down to be honest.No wonder your neighbours aint answering the door.Is it any wonder when vets are charging high prices such as these.I know you have the animal welfare at heart but you gotta relise some people dont have that sort of money no matter how much they love their animals.

assassingod 09-01-2003 12:49 PM

@Latso; Its not whether its a law or not, its the fact that it was still alive and in pain. Im sure if you were in the same situation you would help it.

But its silly that you have to report dogs and not cats, cats are nicer:(:bunny:

lasto 09-01-2003 12:55 PM

if was me i would help it - cause i have feeling but i was only stating the fact that they dont need to hence why they proberly drove off.

Actually dogs are nicer and do more for you.Dogs protect the home which is mainly their function.What does a cat do ?
Its basically a wild animal and attaches itself to the home it lives in whereas a dog attaches itself to a person.

Notice the difference.

bvtonedog 09-01-2003 01:00 PM

not true, my cat would follow me no matter where i go, if i let him out of the house when i went he would follow me, not just stay around the house no matter where i go, cats make you live longer as well ^^

assassingod 09-01-2003 01:06 PM

Sadly cats dont have the mental capacity to do what dogs do, so you can't blame 'em for not being like a dog :bunny:

SnowBot 09-01-2003 02:47 PM

Cats are virmin, Its a fact, they are classed as so and thats why you dont have to stop, same as hitting a rat.

Id love to see a cat become a guide"cat" a see and eye "cat" a sniffer "cat" a guard "cat"

Cats are indepensent creatures.

assassingod 09-01-2003 02:52 PM

Quote:

Today at 04:47 PM SnowBot said this in Post #13
Cats are virmin, Its a fact, they are classed as so and thats why you dont have to stop, same as hitting a rat.

Id love to see a cat become a guide"cat" a see and eye "cat" a sniffer "cat" a guard "cat"

Cats are indepensent creatures.

Thats awful to say. And as I mentioned above cats dont have the mental capicity to do those kind of things, same as a baby not being able to talk. Cats a pets more than anything, and can't really defend themselves so leave them alone.

Also, sort your your spelling and grammar out.

Dean C 09-01-2003 02:56 PM

I have 5 cats and wouldn't swap them for a dog any day. But i won't start a cat/dog debate :)

Sue 09-01-2003 03:16 PM

This is what he looks like, only this image is of an older cat:

http://www.cyber-cats.com/images/cards/choc_cat.jpg

I found out what breed it is. It's called Havana Brown.

Blindchild02 09-01-2003 03:23 PM

oh, i saw u type this is what he looks like before i saw the pic...

i thought u were gonna show a recent pic :(

i woulda been scared....

Intex 09-01-2003 03:51 PM

Sue - Really sorry to hear about the poor cat. It makes me so mad / sad when I see or hear about this sort of thing. One of the few things that pushes my button is to see someone harming an animal. Whilst I know you don't treat violence with violence, it makes me so mad, that if I saw it, I think I'd just flip.

I really hope that cat is okay and the neighbours will help the little guy out. I've taken in so many strays over the years and have never regretted it once. I personally think its really bad when people put a price tag on an animal, i.e. when it becomes not 'worth-while' to saves it life. It sux - but this is the world we live in and its becomming more capitalistic as the years go by.

How about setting up a paypal account so people can make a donation, however small? You might be able to raise enough or at least help them. I'd be happy to contribute.


Snowbot - Cats are vermin? How about realising that humans are vermin. We spread more disease than anybody else and cause more destruction that any other living being.

And just because a dog does more than a cat, why does that make any difference at all. Of course if all you are basing this on what something can do for you then your entitled to your opinion. What about people that do nothing for you directly and just go around killing, stealing and generally making the world a bad place to live? Shall we get rid of them? I can tell you now, given the option, I'd get rid of them rather than any animal.

It's a cruel world :mad:.

Chris M 09-01-2003 04:10 PM

@Intex - Great minds think alike - I suggested it to Sue via PM, and she said that she would see what the neighbours do:)

I would be happy to donate what few $ I have in my Paypal account:)

To all you people who think dogs are smarter

I take the philosophy of Jack Byrnes (Robert De Niro) from the film "Meet the Parents" - Dogs are emotionally shallow creatures which are easy to break (i.e. shouting at them) - Cats make you work for their affection;)

Satan

assassingod 09-01-2003 04:11 PM

Amen to that Chris;)

Dakkon 09-01-2003 07:24 PM

Quote:

Today at 05:51 PM Intex said this in Post #18
Snowbot - Cats are vermin? How about realising that humans are vermin. We spread more disease than anybody else and cause more destruction that any other living being.
I second. I like cats and dogs both. Whoever said that have lack of knowledge for sure.

Intex 09-01-2003 07:33 PM

:) @ Hellsatan and OMG you live in Northampton - same as me :D.

assassingod 09-01-2003 07:44 PM

Quote:

Today at 09:33 PM Intex said this in Post #22
:) @ Hellsatan and OMG you live in Northampton - same as me :D.
Yeah, he only lives about 30 mins away from me.;)

Intex 09-01-2003 07:55 PM

LOOOOOOL - the world is not only cruel its also very small :). What a coincidence !!

Chris M 09-01-2003 09:04 PM

Oh dear god...

I live just outside of Northampton, born I was born in Northampton General Hospital, and lived on Southfields for about 7 years;)

Satan

Sue 09-01-2003 09:39 PM

Yeah, I have posted about this little guy across on my own message board and a few other places, and I can't begin to tell you how many people have offered to donate money. I will probably do a paypal donation, but first I have to find out for certain if it does in fact belong to the people next door, or to anyone at all.

If anyone would like to follow up on updates since I'll be picking up the kitten tonight at the hospital, you can read up on my journal, located at http://svtscorpio.livejournal.com

Someone made an excellent suggestion on another message board:

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Instead of the expensive surgery, aren't there those little harnesses with wheels, so if the kitty can't walk, he can still get places by walking with his front paws, and the contraption carrying his legs behind him? I know those are much cheaper, though it does make the kitty dependant on that.
Thank you all for your support. :) I'll be taking a picture later tonight of the little guy. I'll post it across the internet :)

assassingod 09-01-2003 09:42 PM

I don't agree with the Kitty-wheelchair because wouldn't it be too much wait for the kitten to carry with just 2 legs? I know dogs can do that since they have longer legs and stronger muscles but im not sure about the kitty:(

Sue 09-01-2003 09:56 PM

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Today at 09:46 AM lasto said this in Post #8


Check out what I found on the MSPCA website:


OVERVIEW OF MASSACHUSETTS ANIMAL CRUELTY LAWS
It is unlawful for an owner or custodian of an animal:

To fail to provide an animal with:

* Proper food and water
* Shelter or protection from the weather
* Veterinary attention to reduce or end suffering from disease or injury
* A sanitary environment

To willfully abandon an animal

To carry or cause an animal to be carried in or on a vehicle in a manner that endangers the animal including transport of an improperly secured animal

To willfully permit an animal to be subjected to unnecessary torture, suffering, or cruelty

To Subject, Cause or Procure an animal:
* To be tortured or tormented
* To be cruelly killed, beaten or mutilated

To fail to notify the owner or police after striking a dog or cat with a motor vehicle.

To use animals as lure or bail in a cruel or inhuman manner

To transport an animal in the back of a motor vehicle unless animal is properly restrained.

Check your facts. Then, if I were you, I'd RECHECK them.

Jerry 09-01-2003 10:21 PM

I've been on both sides of the story its a horrible thing.

N!ck 09-01-2003 11:16 PM

Glenn Humplik may have a thing for cats, but personally I think they're downright evil. Y'all may think your cats love you, but really all they love is the bowl of food you set out for 'em and the sandbox you give 'em to do their business in.

Anyway, I do have a cat, and I think it's incapable of learning that I'm not a predator. (That's right, I can't even get within ten feet of it unless it's sleeping.) My dog on the other hand (a shih-tzu at that!) will speak, shake, roll over, come to me, get away from me, jump up in my lap, etc. All I have to do is tell her to.

SnowBot 09-02-2003 01:00 AM

Quote:

Yesterday at 04:52 PM assassingod said this in Post #14


Also, sort your your spelling and grammar out.

Ok i will if you will :p Will Will :p

Maybe check your own posts before trying to belittle others. It just makes you look like a fool when you cant even do that.

Also i did not know this was an english class, silly me. Next time i post i will remember and bring my thesaurus with me so i can consult it.

SnowBot 09-02-2003 01:31 AM

Also i would like to point out that i NEVER said i did not think it was wrong or cruel, just that cats are unsocial animals and are independant.

EDIT

So please do not read in to things and come up with your own answers.

Intex 09-02-2003 04:08 AM

N!ck, whilst your entitled to your own opinion, saying that cats are evil is just a ludicrous comment. In your experience this maybe true, but its certainly not the case generally. Saying all cats are evil is just the same as saying all people are evil or in fact anything ad everything else is evil.

I've had around loads of cats in my time and, in my experience, all have been very friendly and loving animals and offer a lot more than just a sniff of gratitude when its feeding time.

Of course, as I've said many other times before to others, there are exceptions to this rule and other animals can be 'wired' wrong and can be nasty. Then there's how they are treated by their owners!

Intex 09-02-2003 04:14 AM

Sue - I've read your diary and will continue to do so for updates. With respect to your neighbours - they don't deserve the kitten. Anybody that wouldn't phone the hospital to see how they are etc. doesn't deserve him. Let's hope that the tech wants him. That could certainly be the best option for the little guy.

assassingod 09-02-2003 05:48 AM

Quote:

Today at 03:00 AM SnowBot said this in Post #31
Ok i will if you will :p Will Will :p

Maybe check your own posts before trying to belittle others. It just makes you look like a fool when you cant even do that.

Also i did not know this was an english class, silly me. Next time i post i will remember and bring my thesaurus with me so i can consult it.

The reason I said that because your spelling and grammar is very bad and I couldn't understand your post. I guess if you want to participate in the debate about cats/dogs then atleast make your argument readable.

lasto 09-02-2003 06:03 AM

Quote:

Yesterday at 11:56 PM Sue said this in Post #28
Check out what I found on the MSPCA website:


To fail to notify the owner or police after striking a dog or cat with a motor vehicle.


Check your facts. Then, if I were you, I'd RECHECK them.

Im UK - so recheck your facts.

Jerry 09-02-2003 07:02 AM

Quote:

Today at 01:16 AM N!ck said this in Post #30
Glenn Humplik may have a thing for cats, but personally I think they're downright evil. Y'all may think your cats love you, but really all they love is the bowl of food you set out for 'em and the sandbox you give 'em to do their business in.

Anyway, I do have a cat, and I think it's incapable of learning that I'm not a predator. (That's right, I can't even get within ten feet of it unless it's sleeping.) My dog on the other hand (a shih-tzu at that!) will speak, shake, roll over, come to me, get away from me, jump up in my lap, etc. All I have to do is tell her to.

Funny how life can be a mirror some times, thats the good thing about Karma.

Intex 09-02-2003 03:35 PM

Sue - I've just read the update up to 11:32am. I can't beileve your neighbours - that is just totally out of order! Nobody like that should ever be allowed to have animals.

Anyway, hopefully the papers will all get signed off and the tech will have the kitten and it gets the surgery it needs. Fingers crossed.

Intex 09-04-2003 03:57 PM

Sue - Just read your last journal entry. That's really cool he will be going to such a good home - where better could he go than the director of operations at the vet !! (apart from your home of course :)).

I bet he did remember you too when you went to sign the papers. Really please someone took the time to help him out. Definitely give yourself some chocolate for that :D.

r6xual 06-09-2004 11:33 PM

Quote:

Glenn Humplik may have a thing for cats, but personally I think they're downright evil. Y'all may think your cats love you, but really all they love is the bowl of food you set out for 'em and the sandbox you give 'em to do their business in.

Anyway, I do have a cat, and I think it's incapable of learning that I'm not a predator. (That's right, I can't even get within ten feet of it unless it's sleeping.) My dog on the other hand (a shih-tzu at that!) will speak, shake, roll over, come to me, get away from me, jump up in my lap, etc. All I have to do is tell her to.
Funny, my cat wont stop showing me affection, im pretty sure if you cant get within 10 feet of your cat without it running away, theres something that is causing/caused him/her to do that. Its no different with dogs, they will do the same thing. BTW, I tought my cat to fetch :squareeyed:


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