vbulletin VS invisionbaord
 

right no forum i know has the hacks that vbulletin hacks have thanks to you guys here :)

but alot of my friends are moving to invision board because they use only 9 -11 queries for there main page and pages??? (my friends pages are all like between 9 and 12 max) and i am very jelous

and it does seem alot faster on my pals site than what it was with vbulletin ???

i wont move because i cant stand the look of the board .. but anything is tweakable and with good template mods you can do what you like !!

please dont flame about this all i am asking is why does vbulletin 3.0 have so many queries when this invisionboard has so little ???

vbulletin 3 has 8 queries on the main page
you just have to wait until it's released

ok that is fantastic :), cant wait untill the new vb3.

thanks for not flaming me :), i thought it was a bit touchy to post this... but really needed to know what was going on with these queries

Regards
Mickie D

Xenon's "Optimizing Fourm Home" and my "Homepage Statistics Cache" would probably help you bring the number of queries on your page down while we're waiting on vB3. I have both installed on my site and only have 12 queries (as a guest) on my main forum page. :)

thanks tigga, i do use these forum bandwidth life savers i have 19 queries on my main page with lots installed aswell (so its not all bad).

i have the hump with my showthreads as it sometimes hits 29 :(

You showthread page sometimes hits 29? You may want to double-check that you don't have a query in a loop there. If the number is fluctuation there's a good chance there is a loop somewhere. A good way to test that is to increase the maximum number of posts displayed per page. If the number of queries also increases, then you probably have a query in a loop somewhere. ;)

yeah tested it with 20 30 and 50 all hit 29 :(

i am not to worried i will wait until we get the new vb with nice queries :)

Mickie, we won't flame you.
We're fair, and we know the power of invisionboard :)
If vb2 would be perfect, then why would the devs work on vb3? ;)

btw 29 queries on showthread is normal (unfortunately)
the fluctuation is because of wether you use threadid, forumid or postid in the calling url (lastpost, goto post or just showthread ;))

Really? I have 24 on my site, and only 20 on my test board...

well i don't know the real standard unhacked vb but it differs how you call it, and also if you are a mod/normal user and some other facts :)

most of the time templates which are not in the templatesused are the problem :)

but when vb3 comes out it will kick invisions boards arse ????

lets hope so :)

I'm sure it will. I don't remember the specific number of queries on showthread, but I'm pretty sure it was less than half of what it is now. :D

hmm dunno both teams have projects going on

Jelsoft has Vb3
Invision has IPB 1.2

will just have to wait and see

also i have been reading up on the invisionboard... it has plugins ???

i cant quite understand how that will work is that like a hack but you dont have to mod any php files ???

if it is vbulletin should maybe consider this aswell it will be very handy, but i dont mind i have hacked scripts for well over 4 years now so its no trouble for me :)

and also will most of the vbulletin pages be under 10 queries or just the main page ??

thanks for all the answers

Regards
Mickie D

Most of the files will i think.
they reduced the queries of global.php which affect every page :)

pluginsystem was discussed, but hacking can do much more than every plugin, so it was declined.

thanks for answering my questions and i agree that hacking a board is much better and gives a better level of hacking... but i thought maybe if vbulletin was to bring out there own mods then a plugin would be handy ???

ok then last question :)

have vbulletin given a time scale as i have not seen any on here or vbulleti.com for a realease date of VB3 or you being a very wise spokesman for vbulletin would you say it was in the very near future or just wait lmao

well jelsoft won't make thier own mods for vb, that's why there is vb.org ;)

last question:
there is no dateline yet, but the public beta of vb3 is really near as i've heard by some of the devs :)