Going Dedicated, any suggestions
 

Price is still a consideration, beyond that want as much as possible for as little as possible :) - but up time, service, etc is still the most important.

Would like to stay under 300, actually need to.

um, wow, I am way off, didnt mean to be in this forum

Try www.racknine.com - tell Chris or Kevin that Erwin from vB.org sent you. :)

Moving to The Lounge...

Perhaps rackshack.net? I've got a dedicated box there and I'm satisfied considering how cheap it is. Don't expect too much support though, but as I said, you get what you pay for.

<-- Agrees with Erwin. Racknine is an excellent company and all things considered, they are one of the best hosts I've found. :)

nocster.com beats all companies hands down here. Below 300, pfft, go look at the valentines day special servers, for $300 per month you can get your hands on Dual 2GHZ Xeons with 1GB of top quality RAM and 1TB bandwidth...

I checked the dedicated servers page of nocster, and the prices are quite a bit more expensive than rackshack. However, support might be better, I don't know. All servers at nocster comes with a max ram of 512 MB (which isn't enough for a webserver if you ask me), and paying $85 extra setup + $25 monthtly for 1 GB RAM is a complete rip-off.

I'm thinking of replacing my main server (Dedicated 1 Ghz AMD Duron, 512 RAM (Rackshack)), so I would go with Rackshack again. This deal is very tempting...

Intel Pentium 4 2.0 GHz
1 GB RAM
80 GB Hard Drive (7200RPM)
400GB Monthly Transfer
Plesk PSA 5.0

Setup: $109
Monthly: $139

The equivalent server at nocster.com would be something like this:

Intel Pentium 4? 2Ghz
1 GB RAM
80GB IDE Hard Drive
300GB Bandwidth
5 IP Addresses
CPanel5

Setup: $485
Montly: $170

How you can say that nocster.com beats all companies hands down is beyond me... :)

http://www.nocster.com/presale.shtml

Intel P4 Xeon?
Dual 2Ghz
1GB ECC REG DDR
120GB IDE Hard Drive
1000GB Bandwidth << !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5 IP Addresses
Red Hat? Linux 7.3
$0.00 SETUP
$299.95 MONTHLY

+ Cpanel only costs $20 a month extra.

This is one top quality server, and the main thing, 1TB of bandwidth...

And the main thing with the prices at nocster is:

they are all managed servers

Their support team will go a long way for you and do a lot for you :).

Ah yes, I was just looking at their non-sale servers. There are some pretty nice servers for a good price, I must say. I'll keep nocster in mind. :)

EDIT: I don't like this though:

3-Month Advance Payment *

EDIT 2: Rackshack has something similar:

Intel Dual XEON 2.0GHz
1 GB DDR RAM - 2x120GB Hard Drives
1000 GB Monthly Transfer!
Ensim WEBppliance 3.1
$299.00 SET-UP FEE
$299 MONTHLY

www.viperhost.com

You'd have to contact them privately about dedicated hosting though ;)

- miSt

There's two things that stopped me from going to rackshack. First is no Cpanel, buying an external license costs about $65. Secondly, I'm a newbie when it comes to linux administration, and my SSH knowledge is extremely limited. Should I need something done on the server, or if something goes wrong, i'm on my own as it's not a managed server. I needed managed and nocster delivers it to me at a good price.

When I was first looking for a ded. server just over a month ago, nocster and rackshack were the two places I had in mind. I almost went with a rackshack but I needed managed so I went with nocster. I'd been with nocster a couple of months before, and the service was quite good.

If you have a pretty big site or are planning on starting a hosting company I strongly suggest for you to stay away from Rackshack. Although they have improved since I was there it was a personal nightmare for myself support wise they are very tough to get things done such as simple old reboots.

Nocster is a very good place and they have Cpanel *Drools* which is the best cp in my opinion to have on a server. Viperhost I've heard good things about but not sure on them doing dedicated.

Well yeah, as I said, you get what you pay for and you don't pay for support :p

I don't complain about reboots though, normally a reboot takes 10-15 minutes now, I remember it taking more than an hour, sometimes a few hours, but this was more than a year ago. But I'm happy with rackshack, all I need them to do is to reboot my server every now and then, everything else I can take care of myself.

I have a dual AMD MP server from Nocster (with 2 GB ram, special order), and their support is awesome. The server is awesome too, I've had 500+ on at once (on the same vbulletin database) and load was about 1.

anytime I look for a host here are the first things I look for

1. atleast 3 or 4 different redundant connections to the net
2. is it tier 1?
3. new boxes (pent 4 2.x or better; or athlon 2000xp or better)

first thing you should do is email someone in charge. is it a small company, then email the owner. if its as big as rackshack. email a supervisor or manager in the sales dept. see how quick they are to respond and how well they answer your questions

any attempts to dodge difficult questions are a sign that you should take your business elsewhere.
you are trusting your site and its info to them. if they are vague now, imagine what could happen if/when your site crashes and you have more important questions for them

What is the catch to these deals at Rackshack? $0 setup and $0 monthly?

Man,

This is a great thread!

I'm considering putting a couple of sites on a dedi and now i'm 1 step closer as I am also a newbie to dedis.

Thanks

Funny, I started this thread, checked back a couple times and was in the mood to act quick so went and got one before this thread ever was responded to.

But for a follow up, I (as I said before reading this thread since this is the first time in three months I have read it) went over to rackshack, looked at their prices, knew a bit about their rep and checked around more to find out they had a solid rep.

Three months latter I could not be happier, I run my site as it is and becoming, and a few other sites and more or less have 1500 other domains parked/pointed to the actives sites on the server.

Cost was like 199 setup, 139 a month. They did not have any dual xeons available at that moment I looked and I was in the mood to buy now so I got what I thought was the most cost effective system.

139 dollars their got me what 300-500 other places would get you. 2.0 ghz, 1 gig ram, 80 gig drive, and the one part I do not like - exim.

Support is damn good for basically boxes that are in reality unsupported. In fact the best in my four years online. Been with and thrown off like a million and one virtual hosts accounts for overuse and for sure not a one of them gave better support than I get from rackshack with an unsupported box. I found that I might know php and dhtml, but found someone that knows his stuff on the apache side and throw him fifty bucks a month to keep me secure and up to date - which makes my price still less than 200 and its more machine than I have found anywhere else for that price. Oh and I got 400 gigs of bandwidth, hell I got so much bandwidth I am mirroring the extended version of the php-chm just for the heck of it amongst other mirrors for other people. Might as well use it up.

Need a dedicated, or looking into one, go to rackshack, costs their for low end is maybe double a cheap virtual account - worth it.

For dedicated servers they don't maintain them for you. For someone new to this, that is not a very good deal.

my system run through a reseller from theplanet.com they have good rates, $99 for a dedicated system a month. Dual system, 500 gigs bandwidth, 80 gigs space etc. I've never had a down time, cept for ip change.

the tech team I deal with, has been awesome as well. :)

before them I was at rackspace.com, they rock the boat as well however they are 4x more exspensive. And my current box I get all the same level of support but free tech support, where as rackspace for the same stuff was $75 an / 15 mins ... eep

:P

Boofo, you are probably referring to www.rackshack.net which provides unmanaged servers. www.racknine.com provides managed dedicated servers.

In any case, I am no longer with racknine.com but have gone to rackshack.net instead, using their new Dual Xeon 1 terabyte servers. :)

This is what I found on racknine.com's site about dedicated servers. Maybe I'm not understanding it right.

Mmm... they must have changed their policy. When I had my dual PIII server with them, they managed it fully for me. Maybe it wasn't cost-effective for them anymore. Anyway, rackshack.net has better servers for the same price, so go for them, if you are willing to learn how to manage your own servers. :)

Would you be willing to teach an old dog new tricks? ;)

Managing your own server is heaps of fun. :) I've learnt to set up a firewall, install MRTG, SIM, work CPanel, learn Linux, vii, pico, top, install apache, mysql, php, tweak my.conf, php.ini and httpd.conf, set up my own DNS servers, mail server, chkroot kits, cron jobs, php accelerators, mod_gzip... security stuff like hiding server info...

It's fun to learn... the forums at rackshack.net is a fountain of information. That's where I learnt most of my stuff. :) The main thing with running your own server is SECURITY. Install a firewall straight away, disable Telnet, use only secure logins like SSH, etc.

Sure, if you need help, I am here to help. :) My dual Xeon is flying like the wind, with up to 600 users online with no problems now. :)

Wow, *major bumpage* people always bump threads from months ago at vb.org =/

I'm now at Rackshack and have been for a month, Erwin knows this, as we met on the Rackshack forums :p

Rackshack 0wn. That's all there is to say, for example, look at the price of a Dell Dual Xeon with a 10MBPS unmetered connection...

what ever you do make sure you get SSH access, if your on linux ;) I don't know how I lived with out it.

If I ever even attempted something like a dedicated server, I would have to have help as I know nothing about this kind of stuff. ;)

Ditto;)

Thats why I am gonna do it in the summer:p

@Erwin - Oh really? I wonder how many vB.org users it can handle;););):p:D:p

Satan

People are expecting too much from the rackshack staff. If you know your way around a linux box, you'll have no trouble at all. They answer trouble tickets in a timely fashion and so far, i've had nothing but positive experiences with them. No matter what people say, rackshack owns the market.

And to be honest, i prefer having full control of my server, knowing that i could do something that could possibly damage my configuration, rather than having some tech doing all the work for me.

Rackshack.net is totally unmanaged - it's up to you to update the software, maintain security etc. That's why they are so cheap.

Same here, I prefer total control. I get to optimize everything myself. :)

Hmm, Hellsatan brings up a good point, now we must consider one more thing in conjunction with bandwidth usage and disk space, how much hellsatan can the server handle?

NOT ENOUGH!:p

/sevillaugh

^^ Damn...Someone needs to install Plus! 2 on vB.org;):p

Satan