How do you propose vb3 will be preventing circulation of there script without lisc.
 

I see vb2.2.6 for download at many sites, and most of these are anime content not only do they have vb, but other scripts.

I wonder how vb3 can be a special thing to us legal owners? I go and I see vb2.2.6 everywhere and no liscenses...pretty un special if youa sk me :dead:

Just want to know how you think vb3 will be made special hehe.

I think maybe some sort of callback system, and each script has a little code, unique one that is, and then the server will look for 2 copies, and then maybe send back a little modification that will shut it down, maybe tell them to chmod the fodler 777 lol...so you can do something hehe, dunno

what do you think?

Drk

There's no such thing as software that can't be pirated.

but...if u see how much the script is being sent to ppl here and there, it would be cool if it can reduce a bit.

Drk

yea but the only way of doing it which is already done is to have a callback code in the php... and then some smart person can then go and edit it out... thats how warez started for vb unfortunately...

Hmmm...

How about a function that requires the callback code for it to work...

Catch 22 - You either beat the system, and have a non-working board, or you face the consequences of Piracy;):p

Satan

I can list atleast 3 sites off the top of my head that have vb for download...lol, this callback function would be a good addition to reduce circulation somehow.

Drk

It would take the license owner two minutes to run the function, get its output and place it instead of the call. Or just remove it, lol.

Good job! You've reported each of them by now, right? :ermm:

:banana:

(Nothing meant by the banana - I just haven't used it yet. ;))

There is no point Ive known of 5 sites that have been reported, and they are still operating, there is no point is reporting them, nothing is gonna be done.

Drk

BULL*.

With so many cases, it takes time to achieve anything. And while priority goes to sites actually running vB illegally, I'm sure Jelsoft would like to know about sites that offer it for download.

At the very least, not reporting them doesn't reflect well on you. Unfortunately, your complacency makes you part of the problem.

If you don't want to report them, post the URLs here and I or someone else will gladly report them.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

edit:
:banana: (Again, he just looks funny... ;))

:ninja: Ninja??? Looks like a demented applehead that's been in the sun too long. I likie!

Hmmm...

Then Chen, why not make a callback function that is required, which requires another callback function, which requires authentification from vBulletin.com, which requires a callback function?:D

Satan

I will not be posting them, but if you want to report it, pm me.

LOL

If Jelsoft finds somebody is offering their software for download, or using a warez copy on their site, they shut them down. Even though you may own a warez copy, you still don't have all the nifty access to Vb.org for support, and to download hacks.

There is no way to stop warez, but there are ways to lure them into buying the product. The best way to do this is to make them more envious of licensed owners on vB.org and vB.com, making more things available to only licensed owners, not to mention harder to get for non-licensed. That way those pirates will become so damn annoyed of trying to find vB resources that they'll just give-in to buying it ;)

Uhuh...

But what is to stop them from buying a Liscence, and then distributing it?

Satan

What I hate is people with no liscenses downloading hacks, they get there friends to give them access. Bah It sucks

Drk

NOTHING! ugh..no offense, but sometimes you guys need to think before you speak. I already stated there is no way to stop warez! *dies 1000 times*

Uhuh...

/me looks suspiciously around...

Satan

I hate that too.

@Velocd - I was answering the question...

Lure them to buying it? So...We got one...That still doesnt stop the other ones...

We need to find a foolproof solution:)

Satan

yes...teh call back system, and me and hellsatan, we will beat them down lol.

And if the callback system is done, I suggest that all liscenes associated with that s/n be canceled as a punishment, this will teach them.

Drk

Um...Arunan - You just answered yourself;)

Satan

:ermm: you just quoted and replied to yourself.. :rolleyes:

@satan: you are quick to reply..

So I did :D

Drk

Lol...

Satan

@Velocd - That I am;)

Satan

If I didn't know any better I would say you two are the same, but uh..never mind *runs*

evidence:
Both you have similar links in your signatures
Both of you leave your name after each post
Quoting/replying to your own thread is alittle fishy
Registered 1 month apart

Basically I'm just saying your well known friends :p

yeah, that is quite a coincidence there

That we are;)

But DrkFusion over there copied my "A "PM me!" link - sponsored by this keyboard;)" sig...

Also the slight fact that he is good at graphics;)

We are good friends, cos we are so alike:)

Also - The fact that we are on Different Continents, and in Different Time Zones is a Major difference;)

Satan

eh? I was only saying you two were good friends, I never assumed you were "thee" same person. ;)

Lets try to get back on topic though.

Right...

So vB3...We need to devise an effective deterrant / coding sequence, that makes a callback function NECESSARY for the code to work:)

Satan

I really didn't know Satan til last week...he msged me on AIM and told me he saw hitler, sicne then we have been good friends lol.

Yes we need some sort of security that will reduce the circulation of this script, and one for vb3 woul dbe good, lets keep it special.

:)
Drk

Lol...Its true;)

Anyway - Back to Security...

Cant we make it so that every file makes up a network of code, which contains needed vBulletin file data (i.e. The vB board needs it to work), and a callback function?

Satan

Yea, and you know that little code at the bottom when you go to purcahse something like that can be embeded, and when the isntall script is called, it sends a the information about server, domain etc back to the vb servers with the little code, and then checks for double, and then if match, sends back code to disable script from running.

For EX, if anyone uses 4images, well if you remove the copyright, you get an email saying to put it back on, something similar to that.

Drk

Sadly it is true that many anime sites do run warez software. i cant tell you how many times a day im aimed by someone that knows me thru a friend thats a friend of one of my friends. always asking for a copy of ubb, or vB, or if i know where a topsite script is....

and when these sites start running vBulletin or ubb ill report them, most have been takin off the net, some are still up. but it dose show that jelsoft is working to take down warez sites.


i will also mention that many people around here might and i stress that word, be using a friends vbulletin acount to gain acess to hacks, for example one board that i know is warez has many hacks installed only for download here at vB.org

Eactly the guuys at jelsoft work hard :)
Also the owners of the liscenses should know not to do this kind of stuff.

Drk

Unfortunatly not, I know of at least one site, which i have reported to Chen, that contains most of the popular hacks avalible here at vB.org.

So basicly, you want to deny people from using it on an intranet?

Something like that MIGHT work if you encoded the stuff... There is nothing that stops me from sniffing all the traffic that leaves my server and then just eliminate the callbacks one by one.

On the other hand - I would never install something that was continously sending data to 'bigbrother' - 'cause that's what it'd be...

It would maybe only be a little think, hidden inside the core of vb, like that guy with the carrots in his nose, the picture, you guys know?
you can find it at like index.php?sadfsdf=sadfasfdasd, and there is a picture of dev and other stuff, Chen knows what I am talking about, and so should others who found the thread, something like that hidden beneath everything, lot of software like Ps7, and Win XP do it...Winxp does it on install, I think, or I maybe wrong.

The whole point is, it would be "great" if such at thing can be embeded, if not, we, as liscensed members have to see to reduce this problem. I am not blaming everyone in the Anime Community, but I have seen so many anime sites running vb, and maybe out of 10, only 1 is registered, and the rest get it from that 1 or something, and give it to there friends, and so on.

I have not seen it for download anywhere else, except some poorly designed anime sites, or anime sites that want its bah, if this could be stoped, then great, if not, we gotta pitch in!.

Drk

It does not matter how it is hidden.

First of all, it would take a skilled hacker a minimum of time to remove something like this since we're talking about a product that is delivered with full sources - and even if it wasn't, it would not make it to much harder to remove.

Second of all, upon noticing that it does excessive callbacks, etc, you would get a lot of pissed users and negative publicity - not that I think (hope) Jelsoft would do such a thing, but using callbacks in all parts of the script would produce some really interesting possibilities with regards to monitoring the users.

Third; Users on slow connections, or with bad pingtimes to the jelsoft server would suffer from this. It would affect pageload and whatnot. Users wanting a closed community on an intranet would be forced to chose a different product alltogheter in some cases (servers being completely inaccessible from the outside world, etc)

Doing something like this would be the sure way to kill of vBulletin, in my opinion.

Aha!

An idea has popped up!

DrkFusion hit the nail on the head...

A Hidden piece of Script...But not any ordinary...

One that when called, shows you whether it is liscenced or not...

It calls vBulletin.com every month, to check if it is renewed or not!

Satan