The ultimate RPG Hack(including battle)
 

(This is not really a request, it is more of an announcement)

For all the requests for a rpg battle hack, I am going to make one like none other, it will inclued many many many features.

It will utilize my previously released hacks, and many others. Also i may make it work with Lesane's store hack, I would like to talk with him abou tit first, if lesane reads this first aim me at zajako2, and I'd be glad to work with you on getting some item updates and getting your store bigger as well as making a hack to use all the new expaned features.

Ok, any ways it will use these stats

Level
EXP
HP
MA
PP
AP
ATK Base
ATK Main
DEF Base
DEF main
MA Offence
MA Defence
MA level
Elements

And will have many MA attacks PP attacks and AP attacks, plus the normal attacks and a few other oddities. Items can be used also...

This hack will also have a ton of updates, changing a lot of the codings, so when the time comes only beta test on boards you know you can risk testin on and don't forget the obvious back up junk.

The battle page will look similar to a rpg game, with a seperate window for battle. Graphics will be included so there will be a random bg and it will display either an avatar, of a custom avatar made for the rpg system, Like a full body avatar or something, that can be custom uploaded. I plan to add many other features too, like an inn and things like that... When you challenge somebody to a battle, they get a pm, if they accept then the battle commences. Also Another thing id liek to add, will be an avatar displaying for people currently viewing hte battle as well as a battle log made after the fight. THe stat bars, will also move live. This is a all out full rpg hack, and its in devo, If you have questions or would like to help in some way shape or form, please reply, or if you just want to encourage me (which can help get it moving a bit faster, It seems to help me some how...:P).

Ja

what's MA and PP?

Sounds good...

But What is MA, PP and PA?

Satan

heh

MA is Mystic Aura, my game Twisted Fate( a game in devo ) uses Mystic aura, a replacement and explination for magic. Think of it as microscopic organisims that are filled with energy and hen formed in groups they can do miricles. There are 7 primary element types of the mystic aura, if you have seen my element hack, those are the logos for the tfo elements, (kinda tiny but they are close enough).

PP is power Points.
WHen you attack, you can choose to do a weak attack, this saves some of your power so you can use it to make a power attack. another thing from twisted fate.

while im at it...
Ap is Anger percentage. It goes up as you get hit, and you can use percentages of it to do different attacks.

ok, here is my first progress report....

i have made the stats and made them databased, and set up a post bit to call these. Its nothing that has never been done, however, it is porgress
http://www.tfogame.com/dump/progress1.jpg

Database updates done.

over 100 new fields 2 new tables and 1 table edited

It is looking good zajako!!
I know many of will be very, very ever so very greatful! ^_^

Wow, I cant wait to get my hands on your hack!

this is prolly my first RPG hack to install :)

yum yum, cant wait.

And you're releasing this? Well whatever, it's your version of it. Just don't expect me to use it.

Err.

i dont see why anyone in their right mind would release something this big for free. but hey its your hack.

I would relese something this big, because, it does not hurt me to share something after ts made, and not ot mention, I do this for all the memebers out there. I hold the memebers on my board above me, so I hold members of other boards high to.

typical. I knew that would be brought up in this post by somebody...

Nice ideas Zajako but there is nothing special about creating 100 fields and 2 new tables, its the coding which will take the most effort to achieve successfully.

lol, as long as you can release a separate version of just the battle hack, i'll be more than ahppy. All the HP/MP and stuff I can make by myself but the battle hack i will be HELLA excited.

...? Weren't you working on this project anyway? I recalled Afterlab over at FFRepublic was also, but all his battle hack consists of is an icon showing two swords clashing together.

When I was taking AP Comp Science this year in my highschool class, I made this Final Fantasy program that ran pretty well. At first I started big and had a materia system and what not in the program, but then I figured it was getting to complicated and I couldn't figure out how to make it all come together anyway, so I reduced the battlesystem. I made a very simple but cool system.

Even the most simplest battle hack would be cool to have, that would simply contain these important variables:

1. Enter battle by clicking on icon or text in a members postbit.
2. The damage you inflict will depend on your level.
3. When you attack, another persons HP will lower (duh).
4. Some form of battle cap, not allowing a level 20 person to fight a level 3 person (this would probably be most hardest to code...but then again, not really)
5. When a user runs/escapes/is defeated from battle any other way (ie. closes their browser window) they get gold deducted and the winner recieves gold and exp.
6. Both members have to be online, ofcourse, and have to be free.

That seems about it, and the hacks this already consists of are:

Yet another stats level hack by knoman, although only using HP for battle. The Level, which determines the amount of damage a user inflicts.
shinra online point system, this is needed for the points/gold/gp or whatever you want to call it recieved from battle.

These components can really be used to make the most simplest battle hack, but working. And after you create this and get used to it you can always add others. I laugh though to see in post #1 that he has like 20 fields (actually to quote him, he said 100 fields). Talk about starting big, but to implement all those in a hack never been done before is gonna be no easy task.

*sigh*

Velocd, thanks for post that link

Lets not start another one of these threads again, discussion on the hack and development itself would be nice for a change ;)

I know how you feel, I also run a similar site, just somewhat different.

You want to bet? Go make your site extremly unique. Fill it with features beyond your imagination. Then a few weeks later watch everybody else have it also....

I guess you could use templates as an example. Get yourself a really, extremlly good looking template and then release it. If you don't want to release it, why not get somebody else to release it and get the credit for it?

Doesn't hurt right?

Why exactly are you guys complaining that he's releasing this for free? I mean people complain when it's not free, and when it IS free. It's is not hurting you if he releases it for free, is it? If you don't like it, don't install it. No one is holding a gun to your head. It IS his choice, if he wants to release it for free, or not. Why complain about either decision?

But like the old saying goes: "Do not look a gift horse in the mouth".

Actually no. My battle system (which was up, now taken down for upgrades) consisted of the following:

~ Character/job classes with individual stats like attack, defense, evade, agility, and more.
~ Leveling system by EXP. EXP is earned by damage.
~ Leveling boosts character's status. There are 5 classes and from there, they each can go onto 2 more characters which are higher and more powerful then the original class character.
~ Calculations of damage from items (attack, agility), character (level, attack, agility), enemy's armor (defense, evade, agility), enemy's character (defense, evade, agility, level) and random effects (critical hits, misses).
~ Magic system with over 500 skills. All of which must be learned by using TP (Tactical Points) which is earned randomly within battle.
~ RP (Republic Points), our form of money, given out to the winner of each battle.
~ Fleeing (the person fleeing would lose the battle) feature enabled for players to leave battle.
~ Instant Messenging. You could talk to your opponent within the battle.
~ Battle Ticker. Recent battles would be listed on the forumhome and Battle CP. From there, a link to the battle is provided, in which any user can view the battle in live action.

And I actually don't care whatever happens to this hack. I just don't understand why anyone can take other's ideas and create a hack and get all credit. Also, that wasn't towards anyone, just an overall perception on many things revolving around here.

UBB came out with the flat thread system, then vB improved on it... is that bad?

Mercedes made a car, then Ford mass produced the Model T, allowing others to be able to have one.....is that bad?

That anology is somewhat off from what i'm trying to point out. Here's a better one:

Mercedes makes a car exclusively for their executive members. Then Lexus makes a car that works and looks the same as the high-class Mercedes. Sure, i'd want the newer Lexus, because i'm a consumer. As a producer, like Mercedes, having something that many consumers didn't know about be made by another company then released under their name isn't so nice.

Afterlab, yeah I agree with your anology.

But can I debate about that a bit? (Believe me, I m speaking as devil's adovcate on that and I AM not offending you, anyone or anything like that, so PLEASE dont take it offense... I like your forum and excellent job at code up these such nice hacks!)

Some of these features like battle system, conception of HP, MP, STR, some more are original ideas & works by Final Fantasy, Squaresoft and yet some coders, hackers, or leechers have dare to say "it is my codes, (edit or copy) graphic or ideas, dont steal it or add me as author/credit of that codes or I ll do something!" something like that. I m speaking for anyone who use these ideas and codes that coders made, did they EVER contact Squaresoft to ask their permission to use their ideas/graphics/system for any kind of websites, forums, programs, activities, nor games? I guarantee that NO one ever try since they know what Squaresoft will do to them if they feel like to do that but offically Squaresoft aint care or they ever will since they made billions and billions of $$$ from that, boy we re fortunately that they didnt even try to lift their small pinkie finger to sue us for using their graphic works or ideas.

There are different kind of rpg making programs such as RPG Maker 2000, they stole lots, lots of Squaresoft's graphic works, ideas, battle system, and more also many websites or forums stole much more than rpg making community does. So who is the original maker and maker's ideas for these excellent features? Squaresoft do and always will, so no one have right to say that they re original author as long as Squaresoft still have that copyrighted images, ideas, system, and more. They still make more games for us to play or [cough]steal their ideas, graphics, nor system as usual[/cough]

So it aint matter who code it up or not, as long as they cannot claim that it is their idea or their copyright since Squaresoft is the who own these copyrights before even Web Creator, Tim Berner-Lee invent the World Wide Web.

But again, I agree with afterlab's anology, I just merely speaking as devil's adovcate and we have to be careful what we talk about "ideas" cuz at least 60 percent of these ideas that we re using at our forums, sites, games, and more are copyright by these companies. I m not surprise if someday these companies have enough of us and send wolves to get over with us. (that is a major reason I graduated as 3D artist so that images are my copyright to protect my ass before that happen.)

BTW, afterlab your site/forum look so amazed and excellent. Fabulous job with map feature!

zajako, I hope that ya re still keep your plan to finish this hack cuz I d like to see how your forum look like whenever ya finish with it. =)

My battle works off of a new age longer lasting breath system. So basically you click a button and then damage is given and exp is given. You see?

Sweet:D

Satan

I will post the code now.

its so easy :D

:)

Sounds good:)

Satan

lol this is horrible, i was looking on iBResources, and they are making an RPG Battle System for their forums, and are half way thru it, we can't let them get ahead of us can we!!!, someone release a RPG Battle System

People wouldn't take someone's hack and post it under their name if the person who originally created it would have posted it, if you make a hack it's better to post it as soon as possible and then show friends/people you know about it that way those people you show can't take it if you already have it up.

If you create something and don't want to share it don't get pissed when someone steals it and posts it because it was your own fault that you didn't post it in the first place. But then again I'm just rambling don't listen to me :P

Anyways back to zajako guy or whatever's hack XD

Just wondering but why are the names links, and is there going to be a totally different screen for battling or do you battle in posts? Also will it be text based attacks or do you just pick an attack from a drop down menu or something. I would also like to know how the system of the fights will work, like how much do you take off, I know it's based on your stats above your posts but like how do you know how much you will take off from a regular hit by looking at your stats? Also will the elements, attacks, ma attacks, and whatnot be editable or would we have to do alot of crap to edit them. Last about how long will this take to make it? Because if it's not made soon I'm just going to finish my manual battle system I'm using for my forums..

Ahhhell no! People like you piss me off. All you want is people to release hacks, and you use them to better your community. That's great, I could care less. But look, my point towards your post is this -- What if I took something off of your forums you made and released it here? Would you say "Oh well it was my fault for not releasing it"? I'd better your thinking if I were you.

I totally agree with afterlab on this one.

But if you all wait a month you will have something for your forums :mad:

Well yes afterlab i totally agree with you on one aspect... i would be upset as well... but for another reason... always advertising your site and talking about your hacks and all... do you seriously think that ppl won't come and want what you have? If you want to keep to yourself then you should keep your profile small not talk this and that and so on... not saying you're wrong in any aspect but that ppl will come... As long as they code it themselves then hands down to them...

btw neo if you need any help i can give you any assistence if needed ;)

g-force2k2

I would love it for neo to release it if anyone. Well anyways, it's not the coding that matters to me, it's more about the idea.

man I would love it if you release this.. I am sure gonna install it.. :P

I aint surprise... One of hacker from IBresources gloat at me about that =\ His quote, "VB has nothing crap on RPG battle, we do so convert vb right away!" oh well :rolleyes:

It is not ethnical to talk like that. If these hackers don't want to share, then it's their loss (for fame =P)and their choice.I m professional 3D artist, I often provide anyone whatever they request from me, but sometimes I refuse due to some reason so I'm sure that Neo or Afterlab have their own reasons. Also it is reasonable--it is time consuming to make rpg battles or whatever to code it up. I'd love to provide you guys with these RPG hacks, but unfortunately I just learned and have been reading thru Kevin's book and Wrox books lately so I cannot until that time.

And also, features themselves ain't always attracting new members anyway. Look at sitepointforums.com, their forum doesn't have a lot of features, but yet they attract many, many more members than any full loaded of features forum do.

Neo, it will be cool to see what your hack can do =)

I am releaceing it as a whole, only because, i have to modify all the hp/mp hacks, however when its done, you can feel free to edit it to how you want your bars and things.


well, i have been working on remodeling my entire vb, let alone making my battle hack original. My new site in devlopment, is more of a site with a backbone of vbulletin with the rest totlay redone. It looks way better than any vb, in my opinion so, ,i don't have to worry bout that.


i do not see a single original idea on that list. as for credit I have been working on thsi project for a lot longer than i have even mentioned it. I have papers dated back in feburary, so this idea is actualy not to original considering many other sites, also have it. Also, I am doing all the coding on it by myself, thus im not taking anything from you. The fact of the matter is though, I have been too busy to work on this hack due to running my own company that you finished your version first. Does this mean that i should give you credit?? I think not.. The ideas for mine are mine. I just am not anal about it, to the point that i release my hacks i make and share them, and when i do i also go so far as supporting them, rather than just seeing all the errors and not taking responsibility.


this is more like taking something from a car like a cup holder and 2 people think of the idea of putting the cup holder in a plane. Then one person, shares this idea, and the other gets angry because the other person is nice.
I just want to point out to every hacker out there. I share my hacks, because these people do pay for them. They buy their vb. They spend at least 85 dollars. I may not get a single cent of that, however, they did pay that, and why not make it if not just a bit more worth while. besides my site does not get enough traffic for me to be stingy with my ideas.


Im sorry I have been very busy with everything.. I will get cracking on it :}


It will be a new screen
it will be buttons and drop downs
All stats and forumlas will be editable in the admin panel in the final version
I hope to have it done within the next month or so, i have been rushed with a ton of ++++ going on, and my life has just been made a lot more difficult.


And as a final note, I am sorry for not responding sooner, i have been very busy, and i am going to try to get craking on this hack..

Thanks for all those supporting me, with the originality complaints, and i just want to clear up, this hack has really been in devo off and on since feburary, however i have been developing the background for it which as i had stated ealir, which is a site that hides 100% of the vb, and works only using the vb engine. So as for originality, he has no room to accuse me of taking his ideas. Not to mention, most of his ideas are from Final fantasy series games anyway. where as mine are actualy based off my game in development called Twisted Fate. Thus the lack of Mp, it is replaced with MA, which is a mystical force with storline in tf. In fact, ill even give you a run down of it since it will be a part of this hack.

MA or mystic aura, is a microscopic substance that is originated from an unknown sorce. This substance reproduces when vibrated, because it gains energy of the motion and thus begins to use the engergy to reproduce. The energy is then used in one of two ways by the person causeing it to vibrate. They can A: Cause it to reproduce and give them more MA in there bar called a Acharge or aura charge. Or, they can use the energy to reproce them and give them element, causeing them to mutate into another substance called a MA Attack. Il give an example of an MA attack..
EX..
The wielder causes the MA to take the element of fire, in which case he throws it at the enemy resulting it to turn to a fireball.

so as you can see, Magic is replace by a much better explained system.. The battle hack which i will refer to as the game, cause thats what it is, an online game, will not go anyfurther than that for storylineing due to the fact anything further is a spolier for my game in devo(for a console system).

Now I plan to get cracking on this system for you guys, and for me. I wil give you some screenshopts and stuff when i get the chance and when i get some more stuff done.

As I stated in my post at first page, No one (have no absolute right) can claim that it is their idea since it is Final Fantasy's original idea anyway. So I aint care if it is someone's idea since it is not their at first place but I do care that whoever made it (hack, program, ideas, etc..) that can give anyone access to these and can praise about it. Also someone like you code it up and provide then it is YOUR works that I do praise and care about cuz you sweat it out and make it work even if you didnt provide anyone but yourself. It is not easy work but you do it anyway, it mean alots more than just having 'ideas' crap or 'refuse' to share their works with others.

Interesting.. I been study and write the eassy about RPG during I was student at college which professor ask us to research on 'ideas' subject like who starts it, where area it improve or "evolution" etc.. I decide to research RPG cuz it is interesting, it been always fad at whenever era is. I know for sure that Tolken who is starting whole of fantasy ideas, until computer/console invent and then Final Fantasy starts with the ideas of HP, MP, battle system, etc.. (I been research on this for at least 6 months) Yes there are some old rpg game that have some features (hp, mp and some) but battle system? It is Final Fantasy's copyright and sudden every rpg game copy that and "evolution" it to make it look new but it is still based on FF's copyright battle system (Dragon Warrior for example). Final Fantasy do not even whine about it, they re not care period.

zajako, it is really good to have you to code it up and not let anyone to stop you or complain that it is their 'idea' (actually it is still based on Final Fantasy's idea, sorry fact is fact) Keep it up no matter what they think of you or your works, being pioneer and provide to anyone that they can access is somewhat difficult so good job and I know that many of us want that hack so bad. Many thanks =)

Sorry about my english, it is not my first language =P

Forget to add, also your ideas of RPG hack is very interesting, I m curious what you can do with that and I cant wait to see your screenshots.

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