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Admin 04-05-2002 10:32 AM

Would you like to see the Full Releases forum become moderated?
 
Yay, another poll. :)

This is something I have been thinking about for quite a while, and the recent hakcs that are nothing but duplicates of existing hacks with a new name, made me think about this option even more.
These hacks cause confusion to a lot of us, I am sure. I also know some people only post these hacks to get a high hack count, and I've been deleting many hacks of this nature.

So, would you like us to moderate new hacks in the Full Releases and Beta Hacks forums?
There are three options:
~ Yes
~ No
~ Yes, but only for members with less than X posts / X hacks / X days registered.

I want to know what you think about this. :)

Cheers.

cditty 04-05-2002 10:40 AM

Hate to say this, but yes.

Chris

Admin 04-05-2002 10:52 AM

BTW, if you vote for the second option (only for XYZ members), please specify how you think this should be decided.

Lesane 04-05-2002 12:33 PM

Yes, but only for members with less then 950 posts ;):D

I see your point and i agree 100% with yes. *points to that mirror hack from my "How many threads a user started in a specified forum" that's posted yesterday*

filburt1 04-05-2002 01:04 PM

I'm thinking maybe 20 posts/10 days. By then the mods would have read the users's posts and already know if that person is licensed or not. It also stops worthless posts like THIS HACK DOESN'T WORK and other stupid ones.

TWTCommish 04-05-2002 01:27 PM

I'm thinking a couple hundred posts, but I'm not sure. Maybe 100 or so. But I definitely think some kind of moderation is needed. Some of those threads are just far too flippant.

Recluse 04-05-2002 02:46 PM

yes!! it would also be nice for some way to seperate the support part of the thread from the" thanks great hack " and other stuff that gets posted in the thread. makes it hard to dig thru all the post to see if someone else has the same problem you did. just a thought :)

Dean C 04-05-2002 04:33 PM

what do u mean ?? can u elaborate on what you mean by MODERATE in this instance?? :D

Admin 04-05-2002 04:48 PM

I mean that new threads (not posts!) will not appear after you submit them but will be approved by moderators.
It's the standard moderation feature in vBulletin.

FWC 04-05-2002 05:08 PM

Something definitely needs to be done. There is definitely too much junk in there. I don't know how easy it would be to automate by post count. You could end up with people spamming just to get to the point where they can release hacks. And there is enough spamming going on already. Maybe straight moderation of new hacks is best.

nuno 04-05-2002 09:15 PM

yes to first one
second it's just lame :rolleyes:

mondaynightmike 04-05-2002 10:35 PM

YES there should be. for the first one. but that would take a lot of time to moderate all the new threads.

Dean C 04-06-2002 07:31 AM

oh yes... i agree with this... but you would need to make sure that you have a mod team on almost all day ...

Aaow AnD wHiTe 04-06-2002 01:39 PM

What it's really importan it's to "force" hackers to have their hacks beta tested. Sometimes there are people that release hacks and admit they haven't tested it. I don't think that helps anyone.

We really appreciate all the work involved in hacking, but releasing something in the full releases forum that hasn't been tested it's bad for everyone.

We think that should be the main reason to start moderating the full releases forum :)

We also would like to show our respect to everyone that is here trying to help others. We are learning so much with you, guys! THANK YOU!

Harvey 04-06-2002 03:03 PM

mhmm,

I am not happy with the current result of the poll.

It may be for example that my Hack ist not new, but before I wrote it myself, I searched for an existing, because I don't need to work for develop hacks myself (thanks @all, who wrote hacks I use). But it may be, that I error because of my great english. But perhaps - if someone develops a hack and wants to share it - it is in some points better than the not seen existing. The best would be, to merge the hacks to an optimal Result.

I am afraid that nobody understand or that I wrote something that I don't really - ehm - what's the vokabulary? - that I wrote something that is not consistent with that what my Brain would like to post . So I do it in german again:

Das bisherige Ergebnis der Umfrage gefällt mir persönlich nicht. Es mag sein, das z.B. mein Hack schon eimal da war, das habe ich dann aber beim Durchsuchen der Datenbank aufgrund meiner schlechten Englischkenntnisse übersehen. Leiber nutze ich selbstvertändlich getestete Hacks (danke an alle, die Ihre Ideen teilen). Falls es aber zu mehrfach geposteten Hacks kommen sollte wäre der Idealfall der, dass sich alle Beteiligten zusammen tuen, um das Optimum zu erreichen. Sofortiges Löschen eines Threads wäre dazu der falsche Weg.

Ich erlaube ausdrücklich jedem, der den deutschen Teil versteht und das Recht hat, diesen Beitrag zu editieren, den Müll den ich in Englisch verzapft habe zu berichtigen. Thanks.

Admin 04-07-2002 10:27 AM

I'm sorry Harvey but I really tried to understand your post and couldn't. :( Can anyone please translate it? Thanks.

mjames 04-07-2002 03:20 PM

I voted yes - I would like some moderation to cut-down on repeat hacks and the like.

Reeve of shinra 04-07-2002 04:34 PM

I dont speak german but I believe he was basically trying to say that people sometimes create hacks because they didn't know it was already released. And this new version they created may sometimes be better than the original & they should be combined.

Xenon 04-07-2002 08:52 PM

I'm german,

Reeve of shinra, has postet the right conclusion out of Harveys post. Harvey thought if someone post a better version of an existing hack, he and the Author of the original hack should perhaps work together. Just deleting of the new Hack is the fals way.


Ok now me:
I vote the second option, and it should depend on the days registred. Cause the amount of posts say nothing about the time how often someone reads the forum ;)

Modshack 04-07-2002 09:17 PM

TBH I dont give a rats arse cos I was on a site the other day that had the entire hacks database on it so there are people here who obviously post them for those S.O.B's who dont have legit licences.

I think the best bet would be to make the entire site Registered members only.

But then I am a moaning old git.

HM

Admin 04-08-2002 12:33 PM

Modshack: those databases are built by license owners who just download the hacks from here and upload to that database (warez-supporters). Please send me the URL in PM. :)

Sparkz 04-08-2002 12:39 PM

Nono, post the url here... Oh, nm... I still have a license - I think ;)

Rose 04-08-2002 05:16 PM

I'll throw my vote in for "YES". The Full Releases forum is so cluttered that I've rarely ventured in in nearly a month. :( I need to update my board with some hacks, but haven't felt the energy to sort through everything. *lol* So, yeah, a little moderation would be nice. (y) :D

floleb7 04-09-2002 10:22 PM

definitely yes

Snake~eyes 04-09-2002 11:03 PM

Make them have atleast one hack already released.

qwaz 04-09-2002 11:14 PM

I think it's gonna get pretty sketchy having someone judge who's work is more valid than another.

Variety is good for the consumer, you don't need to hold our hands and tell us which hacker wrote the better hack. That is up to us to decide.

I hope for the sake of coders you don't moderate the board.

Snake~eyes 04-09-2002 11:17 PM

IT needs to atleast be moderated for people not realizing its a database and posting requests or other hacking related material that doesn't belong.

I also agree there should be a variety of hacks. Some may be better than others.

ah well

Admin 04-10-2002 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by qwaz
I think it's gonna get pretty sketchy having someone judge who's work is more valid than another.
We are not going to judge the quality of the code, that is not our intention and we don't have enough manpower to do that.

qwaz 04-10-2002 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FireFly

We are not going to judge the quality of the code, that is not our intention and we don't have enough manpower to do that.

So what is going to be moderated?

Are you going to say to hacker b who wrote version to of hack x written by hacker a that it isn't going to go on your site?

Admin 04-10-2002 12:49 PM

We won't accept re-posted hacks or someone's hack that is posted by someone else. (i.e hacker B takes a hack by hacker A, and post it as his own)

wooolF[RM] 04-10-2002 12:53 PM

good idea... yes

qwaz 04-10-2002 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FireFly
We won't accept re-posted hacks or someone's hack that is posted by someone else. (i.e hacker B takes a hack by hacker A, and post it as his own)
What if hacker b writes a better version?

Admin 04-10-2002 01:23 PM

We accept it.

Ghostsuit 04-10-2002 01:33 PM

Ok I voted option 2 and again think it should be judged by days registered rather than posts. I don't post that heavily mainly because[list=1][*]I search for the answer before I post an error which 98% of the time means I don't have to post a question since it's been answered already.[*]I don't spend alot of time just hanging out due to work :( (wish I could I like this place and the people)[*]I tend to only post if I have something useful to add.[/list=1]

qwaz 04-10-2002 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FireFly
We accept it.
So that's what I'm saying. You're going to be judging the quality of the code, I hope you have the manpower.

Admin 04-10-2002 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by qwaz
So that's what I'm saying. You're going to be judging the quality of the code, I hope you have the manpower.
No, where have you read that? You must be reading my posts and backwards. If hacker B releases a different version of an existing hack there is no reason not to accept it. Whether it's better or worse, that's up to you to decide.

qwaz 04-10-2002 01:56 PM

>edit<

Harvey 04-10-2002 02:25 PM

oha - now I understand you.

PS: suggestion for a new hack: user may edit his voting ;) :D

AWS 04-10-2002 04:40 PM

Yes. It would cut down on the clutter that resides in most of the replies. The "yea this is cool", "check my site I installed" and other nonsense that currenty populates most of the threads.
Each thread for a hack should serve as support for the hack and anything else should be moderated out. I read the forum everyday, even though I don't have any hacks installed, and for every useful post there are 3 others that do nothing but take up space.

Snake~eyes 04-10-2002 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FireFly
We won't accept re-posted hacks or someone's hack that is posted by someone else. (i.e hacker B takes a hack by hacker A, and post it as his own)
IS this currenlty even a problem?


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